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**Footballer2** · 12-24-2007, 10:44 AM

tren a 1-12 100mg ed
test p 1-14 100mg ed
Mast 5-14 100mg ed
Winn 1-5 100mg ed
HGH 4iu ed

i have eq and some deca i could run at low dosages or save for an other cycle

6'4 230 looking for great lean muscle gains...4th cycle cardio and diet are going to be in check

**mx3** · 12-24-2007, 11:02 AM

what your bf%

**Footballer2** · 12-24-2007, 11:28 AM

13 or 14 depending on what test i use

**mx3** · 12-24-2007, 11:36 AM

why so high on the mast.

**Footballer2** · 12-24-2007, 11:38 AM

thats jus what i was told to run it at...is that too long as well

**mx3** · 12-24-2007, 11:56 AM

this is how I would do it.
tren a 1-10 75-100mg ed
test p 1-12 100mg ed
mast 6-12 50mg ed
winni 1-6 50md ed

bump for more opinions!

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 12-24-2007, 12:59 PM

how long you runnin ur gh for?

**Footballer2** · 12-24-2007, 10:58 PM

3 months...is like 700mg of tren a shitload per week tho and can u run mast for that long?

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 12-24-2007, 11:06 PM

700mg is pretty high. highest i went was 500mg and that would great for me.

everything else is fine

**Footballer2** · 12-25-2007, 05:24 PM

so bout 500mg of mast tren and test a week is cool?

**ODC0717** · 12-25-2007, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Footballer2

tren a 1-12 100mg ed
test p 1-14 100mg ed
Mast 5-14 100mg ed
Winn 1-5 100mg ed
HGH 4iu ed

i have eq and some deca i could run at low dosages or save for an other cycle

6'4 230 looking for great lean muscle gains...4th cycle cardio and diet are going to be in check

I think that if you're going to use the tren at the same dose as your test your not going to be very happy in the bedroom. I woud either drop the dose of the tren to 50-75mg ed or up the test to about 125-150mg ed, but that's a lot of test.

Originally Posted by Footballer2

13 or 14 depending on what test i use

I don't think you're going to get much of a payout with the masteron at this BF%. My experience with masteron has been much better with a low level of BF, like 6-9%. Really I think it's more geared for competition use. I also think that 4iu's of GH for 3 months is going to do not a whole lot for muscle growth, but it'll put a beating on your wallet.

What's your past cycle history, dose, durations, etc...? I ask because it seems you take others advise as correct info and don't do any additional research for yourself...

Originally Posted by Footballer2

thats jus what i was told to run it at...is that too long as well

The above quote is my case and point with you not doing any additional research...

**Footballer2** · 12-25-2007, 08:24 PM

i thought mast was a pre contest drug, i do do research but if everyone just believed what they read it would be pointless for the discussion board, I know that people talk about tren dick and you need test to counter act that, also i have ran shorter cycles of gh and thought it worked fine, your right tho the muscle growth isnt out o this world, but the lyposis and musculature fullness comes into play, also i feel that it really counter acts the lethargic attitude that comes with tren ever now and again. The last time i ran mast tho i had about the same amount of bf and the mast really helped me harden up and lean out i thought.
I have ran test/tren/mast cycle in the past as well as winny, var, and gh

**Footballer2** · 12-25-2007, 08:28 PM

believe me bro im not one of these guys who hops on here without doing any research and wants everything to be laid out for them, im that guy who likes to watch all the vets on the site rip apart new guys who ask useless dumb questions, i apologize if i came off that way but i assure you i have a couple books that i refer to and am well versed in most compounds due to online research, i just like to hear about what others did and what dosage they ran these compounds at for a reference.