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    best roid to use to avoid hairloss

    Don't want to loose my pretty due little help please

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    well, certainly don't use a DHT based compound like Masteron . You can use moderate dosed testosterones and 19-nors without too much issue. You can also take finasteride to block the enzyme that converts test to DHT

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    what is 19-nors, and dht sorry Im so new

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    dizz28 talked with u the other night, u are cool, and I appoligised to ima******ger for the other night couldn't remember if you were in that conversation

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    Quote Originally Posted by seattleironpumper View Post
    what is 19-nors, and dht sorry Im so new
    19-nors = Nandrolones, tren

    DHT = -dihydrotestosterone, a metabolite of testosterone

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    how do they stack with test c

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    what is the 19- for

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    Masteron , anadrol and proviron are all DHT based

    19 - nors are mass builders, they do just that and are very effective

    There are many options to stack anyof these.

    What are you stats, cycle experience, goals? You gotta tell us about yourself before we can make any suggestions

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    40 years old bench 225 curl 85 weight 215 height 5'11 back in the gym for a month after taking a year off, want to get my matabalism up and loose some of the gut, trying get cut up a little, and maybe bulk up later when I loose the gut , looking for strenghth.

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    i ahve cycled test before and winstrol , had get results, but i really want to try stacvking, I have a really strong body, and never react bad to anything

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    test/deca /dbol or drol might be a good stack for you.

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    hey imma******ger saw a doc today and got test c 200 just like my brother got

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    and want a good stack to go with it

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    Cycle experience?

    The problems is... if you want to avoid DHT's... that kinda eliminates most "cutting" AAS. like I said earlier, Masteron , winstrol and primo are all DHTs so you might have a problem taking them

    Prop taken with finasteride and Arimidex should yeald a decent "cutter' as long as you keep the calories clean.

    tren can be used as a bulker and cutter, but has some unpleasent side effects. If you've never taken it before, a low dose 50mgs/EOD could be a good start

    oh, and nandrolone phenylpropionate (NPP) could also be used in a "cutter". Test prop and NPP cause much less water retention then their longer esters

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    Quote Originally Posted by seattleironpumper View Post
    hey imma******ger saw a doc today and got test c 200 just like my brother got
    good deal I hoped that would work out

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    If you decide to try tren make sure it's tren a

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    ok when we say stack that just means I will be using the two diffrent types the same week, it doesn't mean combining them in one injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by seattleironpumper View Post
    ok when we say stack that just means I will be using the two diffrent types the same week, it doesn't mean combining them in one injection
    ummm both..

    "stackin" = taking concurrently

    You can mix all oil based AAS together in one shot, no problems. Some people suggest you can do the same thing with water based (like winstrol ) and oil based but I just rather not. It won't kill you but I did it once (1ml zambon with 1ml Test E) and it caused a painful lump so I just don't do it anymore

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    sweat thanks to both of you, one more quest, if you were me which one would u go with if u wanted to stack it with testc and do in one injection

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    I think people should see how they respond to deca , then save tren for future cycles. deca is a potent mass builder but in most cases sides are less than with tren. both are 19nor compounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ima******ger View Post
    I think people should see how they respond to deca, then save tren for future cycles. deca is a potent mass builder but in most cases sides are less than with tren. both are 19nor compounds.
    Yup

    You can get away with shooting Deca /Test C only once a week. Preferred 2x/wk just to keep blood levels a bit more stable...but not required

    and of course, you can mix the two in one syringe for one shot

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    so deca it is thanks again men

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    keep us posted on how it goes bro.

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    I will, and when I finish this up I am sure I will need more advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    well, certainly don't use a DHT based compound like Masteron . You can use moderate dosed testosterones and 19-nors without too much issue. You can also take finasteride to block the enzyme that converts test to DHT
    He wants to avoid hairloss, not all 19-nors are safe. Tren is highly androgenic and can/will cause hair loss.
    A buddy of mine grew alot of hair on his shoulders and back and lost a bit on his head. If you really are prone to MPB and want to avoid it, then nandrolone (deca ) is a much better choice. You can also add anavar or tbol wich is very mild on the hair. Or you could do test with fina/duta.

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    I'm in a similar situation, Im usuing dutas and will be taking supertest450 2ml/pw and wanted to stack with something like tren but heard it wouldnt do any good as dutas would block it? is this correct or another myth, also if i cant use tren could i use deca or does that work the same as tren?

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    Do not take deca by itself (I learned from my mistake)
    Also if you decide to do both the test and deca always run the test at a higher concentration than the deca, preferably at a 2/1 ratio.

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    seattle try this stack...

    Week 1 - 500mg test enth 20mgs dbol ed
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    pls no money talk

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    19 means the testosterone was manipulated in the 19th place to create a new type of steroid ! am i correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by exodito View Post
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    Do not take deca by itself (I learned from my mistake)
    Also if you decide to do both the test and deca always run the test at a higher concentration than the deca, preferably at a 2/1 ratio.
    not needed, you can run a TRT dose test with deca

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    NightWolf your avatar is killing me bro! Dam I had to go yank it twice today already. Can't you put up a pic of a dead kitty or something? I'm trying to get some work done for crying out loud!! jeez

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    Quote Originally Posted by wingding View Post
    NightWolf your avatar is killing me bro! Dam I had to go yank it twice today already. Can't you put up a pic of a dead kitty or something? I'm trying to get some work done for crying out loud!! jeez
    Fixed

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    I wanna see the old one =/

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    am i correct or nobody know??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BodyByAAS View Post
    I wanna see the old one =/


    BUMP!! :]

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    badbrad please edit the price out of post #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    not needed, you can run a TRT dose test with deca
    Whats a TRT dose?

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    testosterone replacment therapy

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