Young and looking to gain weight

[krazy92]

You are an idiot.. When I was 16 I learned everything I could about training and diet.. I was 119 pounds at 5'9... about the same as you.. within two years I was 185 NATURALLY and I am a hard gainer... You just dont want to learn and put the hard work in that is necessary.. without figuring out the diet and working out which you obviously havent.. you will SCREW UP YOUR SYSTEM and WASTE YOUR TIME... Only now at 31 years old and low natural test am I considering juicing.. and I am 197 pounds naturally at the same height as when I was 119... thats an 80 pound gain naturally with most of those gains in the first two years.. at your age your natural test is very high and is not the problem.. the problem is you dont know what you are doing diet and training wise!

That is obvious, you didnt need to point that out, as you have noticed after I was told i was stupid for thinking about steroids in the first place, I was told what I should do.

[longhorn814]

You are an idiot.. When I was 16 I learned everything I could about training and diet.. I was 119 pounds at 5'9... about the same as you.. within two years I was 185 NATURALLY and I am a hard gainer... You just dont want to learn and put the hard work in that is necessary.. without figuring out the diet and working out which you obviously havent.. you will SCREW UP YOUR SYSTEM and WASTE YOUR TIME... Only now at 31 years old and low natural test am I considering juicing.. and I am 197 pounds naturally at the same height as when I was 119... thats an 80 pound gain naturally with most of those gains in the first two years.. at your age your natural test is very high and is not the problem.. the problem is you dont know what you are doing diet and training wise!

no need for name calling newbie...granted this kid is too young to be a member and will be banned, hes been quite receptive at our advice about learning about diet..no need to insult the kid, he's just here to learn..im sure youve been in the same boat...its not like he's some smart ass kid with a no-it-all attitude

[RBIZZY]

You are an idiot.. When I was 16 I learned everything I could about training and diet.. I was 119 pounds at 5'9... about the same as you.. within two years I was 185 NATURALLY and I am a hard gainer... You just dont want to learn and put the hard work in that is necessary.. without figuring out the diet and working out which you obviously havent.. you will SCREW UP YOUR SYSTEM and WASTE YOUR TIME... Only now at 31 years old and low natural test am I considering juicing.. and I am 197 pounds naturally at the same height as when I was 119... thats an 80 pound gain naturally with most of those gains in the first two years.. at your age your natural test is very high and is not the problem.. the problem is you dont know what you are doing diet and training wise!

hey now, he is listening to us... there is no need to call him an idiot now..... and hey kid... most weight gainers will have whey protien in it... my weight gainer has 250 grams of carbs, 1200 cals, and 50 grams ofprotien in it, plus vitamins and minerals, with no added sugar....

[BEAMERMAN]

dude instead of muscle milk try cytogainer same brand alot more calories and protein less sugur also lot better for your situation

[krazy92]

no need for name calling newbie...granted this kid is too young to be a member and will be banned, hes been quite receptive at our advice about learning about diet..no need to insult the kid, he's just here to learn..im sure youve been in the same boat...its not like he's some smart ass kid with a no-it-all attitude

Ty =D. Okay so while I've been researching on supplements, according to muslce milks sales pitch. It is whey protein, creatine, and a weight gainer all in one. Would this work. Or would it be better to just get a pure whey protein, pure creatine, and pure gainer?

[MMAfanboy]

Read my other thread about going to the darkside if you want to read some of the supplements I have found effective.. but doint take the fat burners... muscle milk is high in Saturated fat.. i would take a whey or iso protien to supplement... it is cheaper and just as effective as muscle milk... dont take a weight gainer.. instead eat more food... eggs in a blender with whey protein and milk is a great shake for your age... I used to just have milk and three eggs in a blender at your age with chocolate syrup.. not the best but all I could get my hands on that age and it worked.. tasted like crap but it worked..

[longhorn814]

there is better protein for your money than muscle milk..just look for Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein..its one of the better proteins for your dollar and wont break the bank as badly as muscle milk

[MMAfanboy]

no need for name calling newbie...granted this kid is too young to be a member and will be banned, hes been quite receptive at our advice about learning about diet..no need to insult the kid, he's just here to learn..im sure youve been in the same boat...its not like he's some smart ass kid with a no-it-all attitude

Sorry, that was before I read the rest of the thread.. only trying to keep the kid off the juice and get him on the right track.. my next post provides some help for him..

[krazy92]

And as for creatine and a gainer? Or is that all in the Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein

[longhorn814]

And as for creatine and a gainer? Or is that all in the Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein

the optimum stuff is just a whey protein powder..throw it in a blender with some milk, peanut butter, banana or whatever you want and drink it up..the gainer and creatine are options..just do you research and decide what you will like best..just dont be fooled by all the heavy marketing making crazy claims like so and so gained 14 lbs of muscle in 2 weeks..

[krazy92]

Would creatine and or gainer make a big diffrences? Also say I want a drink to sip on all day during school. Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein good?

[nickel123]

wow...i saw the title of this saying young and i figured 19, 18 at the youngest but 16.....at 16 i didnt even know if i wanted to take creatine and your thinking about steroids ...... i took muscle milk but didnt really just take a multi vitamin- i use universal animal pak and protein, i use on for now and simply eat more high quailty carbs

[krazy92]

wow...i saw the title of this saying young and i figured 19, 18 at the youngest but 16.....at 16 i didnt even know if i wanted to take creatine and your thinking about steroids...... i took muscle milk but didnt really just take a multi vitamin- i use universal animal pak and protein, i use on for now and simply eat more high quailty carbs

I thought it was crazy myself. But when you've been almost thought anorexic *spelling* you want to do something. And I am so glad that I have kind people here getting me on the right track. I no 0 about dieting, lifting, supplements. So all I am asking for now is some advice

[nickel123]

pick up a magazine for some ideas muslce and fitness has taught me a lot

[kick6]

Would creatine and or gainer make a big diffrences? Also say I want a drink to sip on all day during school. Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein good?

Creatine is muscle "fuel," but the only weight its going to help you to gain directly is water weight. I personally take a heaping spoonful of monohydrate in water half an hour before a workout, but at no other time. Supposedly the CEE stuff doesn't hold as much water as the old-school monohydrate, but I've seen stuff that says it doesn't work as well either.

That being said, the gainer is going to be the key.

I don't think you want to be drinking protein drinks all day at school. Reason being: if what you get has casein in it (egg protein) you'll get some STANK ass protein farts. Nobody wants that while they sit in a classroom.

[krazy92]

So for a supplement this is what I am coming up with. If I have access to a blender for the time being, go with whey protein, blend with milk, egg, bannah ect. Use a weight gainer when I do not have access to a blender. (ex. school straight to gym)

[SMCengineer]

Would creatine and or gainer make a big diffrences? Also say I want a drink to sip on all day during school. Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein good?

Creatine and weight gainers are very different. A weight gainer is a high calorie supplement to help you gain weight, but it usually comes at the expense of added fat as well. My opinion is that they're garbage, but some guys swear by them. Creatine has no calories (if you get just the powder) and can help you gain some weight and strengh as well, but don't expect miracles.

Also say I want a drink to sip on all day during school.

Water is best, especially if you start taing creatine which can cause water retention.

Optimum Nutritions 100% gold whey protein good?

This is an excellent choice. It's cheap, it works and it tastes good. I would highly suggest you go to a wholesale food distributer (for all your food) and pick up a few boxes of PLAIN oatmeal and you can grind up a cup in a coffee bean grinder and add it into your shake. You'll have about 46 grams of protein and 54 grams of carbs and you could throw some olive oil in there as well for some healthy fat. Of course, this is a great meal to take to school with you and you can have it two to three times a day.

Good choice staying away from AAS.

[krazy92]

Creatine and weight gainers are very different. A weight gainer is a high calorie supplement to help you gain weight, but it usually comes at the expense of added fat as well. My opinion is that they're garbage, but some guys swear by them. Creatine has no calories (if you get just the powder) and can help you gain some weight and strengh as well, but don't expect miracles.

Water is best, especially if you start taing creatine which can cause water retention.

This is an excellent choice. It's cheap, it works and it tastes good. I would highly suggest you go to a wholesale food distributer (for all your food) and pick up a few boxes of PLAIN oatmeal and you can grind up a cup in a coffee bean grinder and add it into your shake. You'll have about 46 grams of protein and 54 grams of carbs and you could throw some olive oil in there as well for some healthy fat. Of course, this is a great meal to take to school with you and you can have it two to three times a day.

Good choice staying away from AAS.

How would u suggest making a shake for the day?

[SMCengineer]

How would u suggest making a shake for the day?

Well, if you get the Optimum Whey protein than you just mix two scoops of the protein, with one cup ground oatmeal and maybe a tablespoon of olive oil into a shaker. If you buy two shakers than you could just pre-mix them and bring them to school in your bag or you could take one pre-mixed shake and a ziplock bag with the mixture in it. There you have it your own healthy and cheap weight gainer/meal.

[feanixco]

I know it can be frustrating but you are too young to even consider using. Just eat and train bro.

[krazy92]

yes I am now figuring this out. I'm really glad I came to this forum for the answer.

Even got some very very good advice on how to try and bulk up.

I thank everyone who helped =D

[Amorphic]

good on you krazy92 for being open to everyones comments, i'm sure you will train hard and have great gains if you dedicate yourself

[NixBoy1185]

Wayyyyyyyyyy too young, this should not even be considered at your age it will cause long term damage to your body your still growing and it will screw up your hormones maybe even permanently. Give it time and be patient, work hard get a trainer even and eat eat eat.

[krazy92]

Wayyyyyyyyyy too young, this should not even be considered at your age it will cause long term damage to your body your still growing and it will screw up your hormones maybe even permanently. Give it time and be patient, work hard get a trainer even and eat eat eat.

Yes yes yes. I knew all the bad things that could happen. But of course this is all from the health class stuff, which half the stuff they say is sometimes bullshit. But again, when it "seems" like you have tried everything, you turn to the "shortcut." But now that I have had so many people give me some advice it doesnt seem as hard as I thought.

[longhorn814]

Yes yes yes. I knew all the bad things that could happen. But of course this is all from the health class stuff, which half the stuff they say is sometimes bullshit. But again, when it "seems" like you have tried everything, you turn to the "shortcut." But now that I have had so many people give me some advice it doesnt seem as hard as I thought.

its not hard, it just takes time and dedication..but in the end its all worth it!! girls love muscles too!!!

[krazy92]

its not hard, it just takes time and dedication..but in the end its all worth it!! girls love muscles too!!!

O yes. But really atm I don't give a shit if I gain 20 lbs of fat, considering I'd just look normal at that point.

[longhorn814]

at your age, if you start training and eating some decent, you will have no problem building muscle pretty quickly..you'll really notice youre appetite increase after you start hitting the weights regularly

[krazy92]

will do.

I still am having one problem over coming.

What should I eat during school. I don't want to fork over the money for protein bars. And I need to have something I can eat without any teacher really noticing.

[SMCengineer]

will do.

I still am having one problem over coming.

What should I eat during school. I don't want to fork over the money for protein bars. And I need to have something I can eat without any teacher really noticing.

You should take 2 of those shakes to school. You could easily put them in a gatorade bottle to make it look inconspicuous. Than bring your own lunch consisting of an 8oz chicken breast and 3-4 pieces of whole wheat bread and you could put some peanut butter on the bread, which is a great source of fat. If that sdoesn't suit you, you could take two cans of tuna with some full fat mayo on and split that up onto a few pieces of bread. With your breakfast in the morning that would already amount to 4 meals by the time school is over. Than when you get home you need two more meals and your done for the day. Their's tons of options out there you just have to get creative. Try to make a diet so we can help you out on tweaking it.

[Mr Tick]

Glad to see that your open minded and really are taking the advice of the people here. Its good info. Also on a side note make sure you stick to the gym. When you dont feel like going go. I know almost everyone here wishes that they could of gotten a better start when they was younger so take advantage of it now. Dont worry about being the biggest guy in high school because by the time you get out you will have put on a lot of size. Just stick with it. I know that it will get kinda old fast. Just remember that you only get out What you put in. So keep that in mind when you feel like you dont wanna go. Good luck and hope you start to put on some size soon. Oh yeah just to let you know if you havent already seen it. Eating right is not cheep so get your parents to help pay. Tell them its for your health.

[Lil man 10]

just noticed

[SMCengineer]

^^I think he already apologized.

[kick6]

will do.

I still am having one problem over coming.

What should I eat during school. I don't want to fork over the money for protein bars. And I need to have something I can eat without any teacher really noticing.

If I were in HS, and looking to put on weight I'd bring a little carry cooler with me every day thats small enough to fit into my locker. It'd have my lunch and two premixed protein shakes in sealed containers so you can shake them up if they settle. Eating would look something like this:


Meal 1: breakfast before going to school

Meal 2: protein shake after you second class

Meal 3: lunch at normal lunch time

Meal 4: protein shake Before your last class

Meal 5: when you get home from the gym

Meal 6: normal dinner


This all assumes that your classes are 50-60 minutes long, that your lunch is after your 4th class, and that you're working out at your school's gym directly after your last class. If there's at least 30 minutes between the end of school and the time you hit the gym, I'd move meal 4 to right after your last class.


Adjust this accordingly to attempt to get some food in your gut every 2 hours, and your pre-workout meal as close to 30 minutes before your workout as possible.

[largerthannormal]

Dam n newbies read the whole thread before steppin in and givin ur advice. we all know he is too young so shut up cause he knows it too! all u guys do is read the first post and stick a dumb answer in here!

[spooledup]

I was 119 pounds at 5'9... about the same as you.. within two years I was 185 NATURALLY and I am a hard gainer...

66lbs of muscle in two years? That's over 30lbs a year. I don't think that's possible even with AS.

BS.

[krazy922]

New acct for obvious reasons, I am going to post here as long as I can.

Anyhow I'm still a little lost of what this protein shake should consist of. This is what I am gathering so far.

2 scoops weigh protein powder
2 egg whites
1/2 cup grounded oatmeal
banna

(btw cant eat peanut butter, im allergic :/)

Also, is there a website that has foods high in calories and protein ect. In a list. I looked at www.fitday.com and seems you have to know everything your eating, then it will tell you.

[longhorn814]

New acct for obvious reasons, I am going to post here as long as I can.

Anyhow I'm still a little lost of what this protein shake should consist of. This is what I am gathering so far.

2 scoops weigh protein powder
2 egg whites
1/2 cup grounded oatmeal
banna

(btw cant eat peanut butter, im allergic :/)

Also, is there a website that has foods high in calories and protein ect. In a list. I looked at www.fitday.com and seems you have to know everything your eating, then it will tell you.

fitday is great..i use it..you can customize your own food so you can enter in your protein shake once..and its readily available for you to add to that days food list..if you dont know the macros..you can search and just approximate..it doesnt have to be exact just close so you have an idea

[XNathan]

Hi, I am a tall lanky 16 yr old. I am 5' 8" and weigh 110 lbs (on a good day.) I have always tried to gain weight, and I tried every method posible. NOTHING has worked. The only other solution I can thing of is turning to steroids . Here is what I am looking to do:

I want to gain 20-30 Lbs.

Getting super strong is not a concern, but the weight I put on I dont want it to be pure blubber.

I do not want to be on steroids for long, just enough to get me to my goal weight.

With saying this, I'm sure im going to get spammed with READ THE STICKIES NUB! But everything just seems to be based on hardcore cycles and to build strictly muscle. If anyone can point me in the right direction id truly appreciate it.

Today one guy in gym ask me how to gain muscle. Becouse Iam one of the biggest in gym. I told him eat, eat and eat together with train you will se results. Same belong to you.

You are young and unexperienced kid. If you wanna harm yourself do it! But be sure you will live many years healthy or sick. What do you chose?!