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**john2008** · 02-04-2008, 04:39 PM

i was just wondering what would be the best steriod to start off on... i am a quite big build allready and mainly just want to rip up... turn my man boobs into pecks ha

so what would be the best steriod to use?

side effects?

what to take with it?

and how much it cost?

thanks

**juicenchris2989** · 02-04-2008, 04:41 PM

first cycle test 400 - 500mgs wk 1-10 or 12 can use a kickstart with some dbol if you wanted to 40mgs ed wks 1-4. Most important hows your diet ? also make sure you buy your pct along with your gear

**scaramouche** · 02-04-2008, 04:44 PM

a bit more info on your physical condition and training experience would be helpful, if ur overwieght then id stay clear of steroids as u wouldnt want to add to existing blood pressure issues, get that in check before u start thinking about cycling

**john2008** · 02-04-2008, 04:44 PM

yeh my diet is ok been looking up on what to eat... were could i find a proper diet to follow though

**dupa95** · 02-04-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by john2008

i was just wondering what would be the best steriod to start off on... i am a quite big build allready and mainly just want to rip up... turn my man boobs into pecks ha

so what would be the best steriod to use?

side effects?

what to take with it?

and how much it cost?

thanks

Stats Please

**juicenchris2989** · 02-04-2008, 04:45 PM

check out the diet forum

**john2008** · 02-04-2008, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by scaramouche

a bit more info on your physical condition and training experience would be helpful, if ur overwieght then id stay clear of steroids as u wouldnt want to add to existing blood pressure issues, get that in check before u start thinking about cycling

no im not over weight at all..just can seem so get pecks all all just seem to sag all the rest ov my body is quiet toned. played rugby from a young age and go gym 4-5 times a week and am very fit.

**dupa95** · 02-04-2008, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by john2008

i was just wondering what would be the best steriod to start off on... i am a quite big build allready and mainly just want to rip up... turn my man boobs into pecks ha

so what would be the best steriod to use?

side effects?

what to take with it?

and how much it cost?

thanks

If you read the starter paks in this section you know what would be right for you please read the starter paks and do not be in such a rush.

**shifty_git** · 02-04-2008, 04:49 PM

you know your bf%?

**john2008** · 02-04-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by shifty_git

you know your bf%?

im not 100% sure i will find out 2moro though... i no it wasnt that high in the avarage range

**taiboxa** · 02-04-2008, 04:51 PM

diet and cardio.
aas is NOT magic

you need to do some serious research before you even think about using steroids in any manner and no one here is gonna take time outta their day to spoon feed you.

**dupa95** · 02-04-2008, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

diet and cardio.
aas is NOT magic

you need to do some serious research before you even think about using steroids in any manner and no one here is gonna take time outta their day to spoon feed you.

thank you tai I owe you one.

**dupa95** · 02-04-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by dupa95

If you read the starter paks in this section you know what would be right for you please read the starter paks and do not be in such a rush.

bump on my original advice.

**john2008** · 02-04-2008, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by dupa95

bump on my original advice.

i had a read and was not reli sure what i was looking for ... fort i could get sum help on here seening as it is a steriod forum guess not

**lex57** · 02-04-2008, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by john2008

i was just wondering what would be the best steriod to start off on... i am a quite big build allready and mainly just want to rip up... turn my man boobs into pecks ha

so what would be the best steriod to use?

side effects?

what to take with it?

and how much it cost?

thanks

i would try to get rid of your moobs first. there is no juice that will help you get rid of moobs but on the contrary some may make it worse so be carefull.

**shifty_git** · 02-04-2008, 05:02 PM

Find out ya bf% - if over 16-17% you def need to loose some first.

Read these 2 threads to get your research heading in the right direction..

Noobs Starter Pac (by kale)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

Things to consider b4 aas (by perfectbeast)
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=278759

Then hit the diet forum...

Hopefully this will get you going in the right direction and help you realise if your ready for aas yet, and if not, what needs to be done first fella.

**taiboxa** · 02-04-2008, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by john2008

i had a read and was not reli sure what i was looking for ... fort i could get sum help on here seening as it is a steriod forum guess not

your LOOKING for any and all information you can acquire on aas.
obvisouly you are seriously downplaying the potential hazards of aas and the complexity of how to utilize them effectively and safely.

its not something you can just HOP ON THE NET read 1 article and then start your cycle to get rid of your moobs.

like prevoiusly stated.. gyno is a prominent side effect... and if your chubby or already hold titty fat its going to be very difficult to notice when you start acquiring gyno.. and BLAMO before you know it.. ur shopping in the womens department for a sportsbra..

so i suggest to you before you post again you should read every sticky and every educational thread you can get your lil mouse pointer on and read it THUROUGHLY .. which means if you didnt understand it.. GOOGLE the words that were too big for you .. then re-read it.

**juicenchris2989** · 02-04-2008, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

your LOOKING for any and all information you can acquire on aas.
obvisouly you are seriously downplaying the potential hazards of aas and the complexity of how to utilize them effectively and safely.

its not something you can just HOP ON THE NET read 1 article and then start your cycle to get rid of your moobs.

like prevoiusly stated.. gyno is a prominent side effect... and if your chubby or already hold titty fat its going to be very difficult to notice when you start acquiring gyno.. and BLAMO before you know it.. ur shopping in the womens department for a sportsbra..

so i suggest to you before you post again you should read every sticky and every educational thread you can get your lil mouse pointer on and read it THUROUGHLY .. which means if you didnt understand it.. GOOGLE the words that were too big for you .. then re-read it.

I google the words when there to big for me

**scaramouche** · 02-05-2008, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by john2008

no im not over weight at all..just can seem so get pecks all all just seem to sag all the rest ov my body is quiet toned. played rugby from a young age and go gym 4-5 times a week and am very fit.

ok, when u mentioned man boobs i assumed u was a fat bastard

whats ur chest workout like?