i have done quite a few cycles and been around for awhile, but I read something on this sites forum i didnt know. i have taken almost everything, i am a 180pds natural probably and carry 205 now on off times, and have been 230, but i get acne from everything i have found except stan so now i usually just run alot of win and get good gains and get closer to achieving my physique. and i dont like water weight or want to be massive so i am now taking growth with win and just started tren . my question is u have to run test with tren? and win is a water test so will it work out and help with my balls? or must i run the test and deal with the acne? although its horrible!