Chances of gyno for 1st cycle ever?

[termostat]

Hello everyone, I am new to the use of anabolic steroids and the community

I have one big concern about gyno and liver damage

I am 24 years old and just started my first ever cycle (plan on 4 week cycle), i've been working out for ~ 1.5 year, 6'3 (190 cm) 77 kg (170 pounds) skinny ~11% bf.
I aim for an athletic build to put +10 kg = +22 pounds

200 mg/week Nandrolone Decanoate
Gainer/amino/creatine + diet
pink pills trainer said must be combined with injection to enhance effect

tomorrow i will get tamoxifen (same thing as Nolvadex ?)

I have no health problems that I am aware of (other than backbone injury few years ago, and lungs since I am occasional smoker)

Please advice,
1) What are my chances of having a gyno problem in a 4 week cycle?

2) Should I take tamixofen already? or after cycle as PCT?

+ any other remarks you find necessary for me as a beginner

Thanks

[ChuckLee]

What the **** are you doing???
Have you researched the necessary to avoid to hurt yourself?
Of course not.
Read tons of the stickies here in AR before doing that kind of shit that would give you absolutely NOTHING.
And, sure, check your diet and grow naturally before thinking about roids.

Ah...welcome.

CL

[termostat]

yes ive been reading for a while, hurting myself in what way?
if it's backbone then yes i'm doing everything controlled (fully recovered since 5 years ago)

please be specific to what is being done severely wrong? is it supplements?

btw if it's about 1 year of training, i was a pro swimmer until last year (for 7 years)

adios

[ChuckLee]

Simply...a 4 week (SHORT) cycle of 200mg deca will give you no results, maybe a couple pounds of water and if you're lucky, some joint wellness.
If you want serious gains (like you said 10 kg, a lot) you must go with Test E/C on for at least 10 weeks, but firstly you have to plan your diet for that purpose. What are the macros of your diet (I mean, prots, carbs, fats)?
Then again, 190cm and 77Kg mean to me that you are still on the way of natural growing, and 1 year of training (hope intense workouts) is not enough for seeing the potential your body can reach.

CL

[dupa95]

Simply...a 4 week (SHORT) cycle of 200mg deca will give you no results, maybe a couple pounds of water and if you're lucky, some joint wellness.
If you want serious gains (like you said 10 kg, a lot) you must go with Test E/C on for at least 10 weeks, but firstly you have to plan your diet for that purpose. What are the macros of your diet (I mean, prots, carbs, fats)?
Then again, 190cm and 77Kg mean to me that you are still on the way of natural growing, and 1 year of training (hope intense workouts) is not enough for seeing the potential your body can reach.

CL

agreed

[nowdenlid]

omg that is the worst cycle ever deca at 200mgs for 4 weeks ????wtf

deca needs to be run AT LEAST 10 WEEKS AT 400MGS OR OVER AND ITDONT KICK IN UNTILL AROUND WEEKS 6-8.deca alone is not a good idea too as it will shut all your natty test down and you will have no sex drive at all ......

as for the pink pill(dianabol ishould think)use them for a kick start for a cycle while you wait for TEST to kick in ..here is a simple first cycle.

weeks 1-12 tset e @ 500mgs/2ml per week

weeks 1-4 dianabol (pink pills) 40mgs everyday (this is to kick start while you wait for the test to kick in ,should kick in around weeks 5-6}

pct -nolva at 30 mgs everyday for 30 days (start this 14 days after last shot of test e)

that is a simple first cycle and pct but you should go a read reda and then read some more befor useing any anabolic steroid

[soccer#3]

u need to redo ur whole cycle and while ur at it, read some more.. seems like u did none

[SayIWont21]

Yea bro sounds like you dont have all your shit together just yet, looks like your just rushing into a quick fix, which your just going to be wasting your money and a 4 week cycle wont even do anything for you, it take up to 4 weeks to even feel the effects lol, but hey you can take our advice and learn something or rush into it and be dumb about it

[termostat]

ok i'll do more reading was rather overflow of unfamiliar info for me (english is not my native)

thanks much for directing me

[dupa95]

Knowlage is Power read read

[ChuckLee]

ok i'll do more reading was rather overflow of unfamiliar info for me (english is not my native)

thanks much for directing me

Where are you from?

[termostat]

i'm from russia

just called ordered test e to add to my cycle (started yesterday) which i'll do for 10 weeks
hopefully all goes well

by the way, how long do post-cycle low test levels last? and how long is PCT after deca for body to normalise test levels?

cheers

[ChuckLee]

you don't have to worry about deca if the test is taken for two more weeks.
I hope you're doing that way...so:
10 weeks Test E/C/P??? miligrams?
?? weeks deca miligrams?

[termostat]

200 mg/per week deca
300 mg/Test E/C per week
Tamoxifen (Nolvadex ) 20mg/2 days

Does that look fine as it of now?

[ChuckLee]

300mg test for 10 weeks could be nice for a first timer, even if it's a low dose, but is it Enanthate or Cypionate ? There no great difference but you just have to know what you're sticking in your muscles...
Then 200 mg deca for 4 weeks only, as first post. I hope not, but if it's so, keep it apart for another cycle.
Nolva during cycle is needed only in case that gyno manifests, otherwise keep it for PCT.
Do you have Clomid or HCG for PCT?

[blackpudding]

only pink roids i can think of are british dragon dbol ... dbol/deca combo isn't a bad cycle, if you dont go crazy with the dbol your liver should be fine. Don't go over 6 weeks with the pinks, drink LOTS of water!!

[ChuckLee]

only pink roids i can think of are british dragon dbol ... dbol/deca combo isn't a bad cycle, if you dont go crazy with the dbol your liver should be fine. Don't go over 6 weeks with the pinks, drink LOTS of water!!

Maybe 30 years ago...
Now we can avoid HPTA suppression caused by that cycle adding a base of Test.

CL

[termostat]

Chuck it will be Testosterone Enanthate , about PCT i am not sure what it will be (forgot the name) but i assume it will be Clomiphene.

Thanks all for educating me on issueы, i certainly cleared many dark things up for myself.

Thanks again and peace amigos