Day 5 and Im up 17lbs weight.

**RANA** · 03-03-2008, 09:58 PM

You guys have to admit the at least the 1st page everyone (including me) was acting nice to the guy.

**taiboxa** · 03-03-2008, 10:00 PM

could be worse.. he could be this guy...

is it ok to stack testosterone enanthate with dianabol (post 9)

**RANA** · 03-03-2008, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

could be worse.. he could be this guy...

is it ok to stack testosterone enanthate with dianabol (post 9)

I read that earlier I did not feel like saying anything...I do love your JAR comment.

**Dizz28** · 03-03-2008, 11:03 PM

And BigDog gave some GREAT advice in that thread also.... AS USUAL!!

**lex57** · 03-03-2008, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

And BigDog gave some GREAT advice in that thread also.... AS USUAL!!

well bro he does have weeks and weeks of experience.......and been a memeber for nearly a month. damn near a charter member

**jbonez19** · 03-03-2008, 11:55 PM

you guys sure take alot of pleasure in crucifying someone. show me where he deserves to be so heavily ridiculed. if someone was treating my little brother like that THEY would have a big ****in' problem. hilarious, i think not. constuctive criticism may be warranted but tearing someone to shreds for your own amusement just shows what a ****in' big headed wanker you are. he told you guys that you were upsetting him yet you continue to shit on him. how would you all feel if he went out and did something drastic? a light hearted ribbing is kosher getting completely stuck in to someone and bullying someone like that is completely ****in' pissweak. my attitude toward some of the people on this board just did an about face. you should be ashamed of yourselves imo

**Dizz28** · 03-04-2008, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

you guys sure take alot of pleasure in crucifying someone. show me where he deserves to be so heavily ridiculed. if someone was treating my little brother like that THEY would have a big ****in' problem. hilarious, i think not. constuctive criticism may be warranted but tearing someone to shreds for your own amusement just shows what a ****in' big headed wanker you are. he told you guys that you were upsetting him yet you continue to shit on him. how would you all feel if he went out and did something drastic? a light hearted ribbing is kosher getting completely stuck in to someone and bullying someone like that is completely ****in' pissweak. my attitude toward some of the people on this board just did an about face. you should be ashamed of yourselves imo

You have no idea the whole story.... thanks for your opinion though, noted

**Drummerboy** · 03-04-2008, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by BIGDOGIRISH

On DBol at 40mg a day and Test but Im only on my fifth day.
Just back from gym where I sweated my ass off. Best pumps Iv ever got in arms and upper body-struggling to type this ha ha.
Anyway I'd be a lot heavier if Id weighed before the gym but right now Im up 17lbs from last Saturday when I started.

I know its gotta be mostly water weight but wow I feel like my whole body has a pump 24hrs a day.
Didnt expect these results that fast.

People have comented that something looks different about me today

ouch my BP would be off the charts... its water

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

You have no idea the whole story.... thanks for your opinion though, noted

he must have done something pretty bad to warrant that kind of attack. he was making cracks about suicide you realise. i think you are playing with fire ridiculing someone in that way.

**lex57** · 03-04-2008, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by BIGDOGIRISH

Nah its cool.
Im doing roids cause I want to better myself and gain confidence.
Then you guys come along and

all over my new found hapiness and excitement by calling me a fat b@stard!!

Not true-Im just a little cuddly ha ha

Well now that Iv bandaged my wrists back up and puked out the strikenine

Im even more determined to do this cycle right cause I gotta prove you all wrong.

The flames are needed so we take this stuff seriously but a little encouragement is welcome also

nevermind.

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 12:20 AM

mate i haven't been critical of anyone who hasn't ripped into a newbie. and the shit you're talking that you could "care less" just shows what a ****in' sociopath you are. if you have had friends who had suicided then you should know what a tragedy suicide is and you shouldn't be being so flippant about it. i haven't claimed to know shit! i'm just trying to participate and if ever i have commented i have prefaced it by stating my inexperience. maybe if you're that sick of stupid newbies you should head off to a board where there aren't any. i suspect you are getting some kind of enjoyment in destroying someone like that though. how many other newbs have left because they have asked one stupid question and had their balls handed to them on a plate.

**lex57** · 03-04-2008, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

mate i haven't been critical of anyone who hasn't ripped into a newbie. and the shit you're talking that you could "care less" just shows what a ****in' sociopath you are. if you had friends... then you would no what a tragedy suicide is and you wouldn't be being so flippant about it. i haven't claimed to know shit! i'm just trying to participate and if ever i have commented i have prefaced it by stating my inexperience. maybe if you're that sick of stupid newbies you should head off to a board where there aren't any. i suspect you are getting some kind of enjoyment in destroying someone like that though

look mate....i dont care if somebody offs themself and i never will. and if you think suicide is a tragedy then you have no clue. a tragedy is when an entire family is killed in a car accident or fire. suicide is a choice to die. and who are you like robin hood...."i haven't been critical of anyone who hasn't ripped into a newbie." what are u protector of all noobs. you started in on one guy who told someone to go read the newbie starter pack....and said you didnt like his tone. how can you get tone from somebody typing???????????????????

**Test-Prop604** · 03-04-2008, 12:48 AM

17lb in 5 days doesnt anyone think this is ridicolous

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 12:54 AM

yeah well what a fine specimen of a human you are then, nice compassion. i had a go at njord because i had made a mistake and he had been less than constructive with me. he he then stated something further and i said thanks for your advice and that was that. i don't see why you're going on and on about like a bitch. it was between him an me and we resolved it. as for being robin hood i just object to people being cruel for their own sick form of entertainment. i had a mate who suicided, he was clinically depressed and it was the most tragic thing i've ever seen. you are an immature little dweeb and if anyone else feels the same way that you do maybe this isn't the place for me. but i won't be leaving coz a heartless **** head like you tells me too.

**Seattle Junk** · 03-04-2008, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Big

Your pic got deleted, here, I saved it for you:

Ridiculous... No reason to be doing AAS whatsover. Dude is young enough to get great gains natty with food and training. Then it's always dbol these young guys take for their first cycle. What's the next cycle? Drinking Winny to cut up....

**lex57** · 03-04-2008, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

yeah well what a fine specimen of a human you are then, nice compassion. i had a go at njord because i had made a mistake and he had been less than constructive with me. he he then stated something further and i said thanks for your advice and that was that. i don't see why you're going on and on about like a bitch. it was between him an me and we resolved it. as for being robin hood i just object to people being cruel for their own sick form of entertainment. i had a mate who suicided, he was clinically depressed and it was the most tragic thing i've ever seen. you are an immature little dweeb and if anyone else feels the same way that you do maybe this isn't the place for me. but i won't be leaving coz a heartless **** head like you tells me too.

wow now this post defines maturity. and i guarantee there are people who think the same as me. and i am assuming you can read right? maybe you should quit chewing your gum for minute and read his post ," The flames are needed so we take this stuff seriously " and i really didnt even flame him. but i guess if you wanna cry go ahead and get it out.....

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by lex57

wow now this post defines maturity. and i guarantee there are people who think the same as me. and i am assuming you can read right? maybe you should quit chewing your gum for minute and read his post ," The flames are needed so we take this stuff seriously " and i really didnt even flame him. but i guess if you wanna cry go ahead and get it out.....

i'm saying that if the majority of the members feel like you that it's funny to relentlessly pick on someone until they leave, i won't be hanging around. i think everyone can see from this thread that your concern is not for other peoples well being. nice avatar too. american psycho isn't it. well if you find that amusing it's easy to see where you're coming from. were you picked on at school. there's a difference between flaming and being an anti-social turd. obviously you are incapable of grasping that distinction. you know i could never understand why all the women members were asking where the ladies only section was immediately after joining. IT'S BECAUSE OF WANKERS LIKE YOU, YOU ****IN' LOSER. oh, and i'm 37 years old, PM me, i'll send you my address and we can sort this out the old fashioned way. just make sure to call yourself an ambulance first.

**lex57** · 03-04-2008, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

i'm saying that if the majority of the members feel like you that it's funny to relentlessly pick on someone until they leave, i won't be hanging around. i think everyone can see from this thread that your concern is not for other peoples well being. nice avatar too. american psycho isn't it. well if you find that amusing it's easy to see where you're coming from. were you picked on at school. there's a difference between flaming and being an anti-social turd. obviously you are incapable of grasping that distinction. you know i could never understand why all the women members were asking where the ladies only section was immediately after joining. IT'S BECAUSE OF WANKERS LIKE YOU, YOU ****IN' LOSER. oh, and i'm 37 years old, PM me, i'll send you my address and we can sort this out the old fashioned way. just make sure to call yourself an ambulance first.

so you want me to call an ambulance first before i pm you? or before you go to the ladies section where you belong? oh and i am 35 years old so now what? oh and i like your avatar too is that you? youre looking ripped. mate. and by old fashioned way do you mean a duel. i always wanted to just say,"draw" ...............youre a joke.

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 02:10 AM

(see below)

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 03-04-2008, 04:09 AM

Big I dont remember giving you permission to use my pic!!!!!
I removed it cause I dont want it in this site anymore. At least I had the guts to put it up on the board. I was going to contribute by showing my progress on my cycle. Not now!!!
Without newbies, this board would die. I'll guess over 90% of the traffic here is from newbies. Well Im sure they are getting a good view of the vets characters here now. Doubt to many others will post pics now.

I saw the remarks last night and I was going to ignore it and let the threads die. Not now!

I should have built a better base, but like 90% (estimated figure) of people who start taking them I wanted it now. Im achieving the results I want -actually better than I wanted!

I said it myself that it was water weight and sought advice on lowering it. Nolvadex and Proviron has since done the job perfectly. I got my Blood Pressure checked and its 130/74 so no problem there.

The young comment. Dude Im 28 next month. Your in your mid 30's. Mid-life crisis age for starting roids IMO.

To make clear I am in no way suicidal!! It was humour. But Jbonez makes a good point and is on target bout Lex's ignorance of that issue.

In the other thread I got flamed for saying you lot were a "nanny brigade" when a guy asked a simple question. I still retain that I was correct. It was a simple question and you lot did your usual obstacle course rather than give the reply.
When I came here I hated that and I spent ages wording my questions so as not to get flamed. I usually just deleted the question rather than post it.
I'll bet many others feel the same.

Someone said I have an attitude since my pics got flamed. Yep I sure do have a chip on my shoulder now.
But your wrong.....I had a dislike for the attitude on here before that
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...64#post3840464
Loads of people think it but they wont say it cause they'r afraid of getting flamed also When all they want is some answers.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 03-04-2008, 04:21 AM

And Lex the confidence is going great from sticking needles in myself ha ha
I dont let A**holes bully me at least.

Last point. I know I dont have the roid knowledge of you guys but at least I do try and contribute helpfully to the board. I never claimed to be an expert.

Right fire ahead guys. Flame the shit out of me again so you can feel like big men!! Im glad I can make your day worthwhile for you's

PT · 03-04-2008, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

mate i haven't been critical of anyone who hasn't ripped into a newbie. and the shit you're talking that you could "care less" just shows what a ****in' sociopath you are. if you have had friends who had suicided then you should know what a tragedy suicide is and you shouldn't be being so flippant about it. i haven't claimed to know shit! i'm just trying to participate and if ever i have commented i have prefaced it by stating my inexperience. maybe if you're that sick of stupid newbies you should head off to a board where there aren't any. i suspect you are getting some kind of enjoyment in destroying someone like that though. how many other newbs have left because they have asked one stupid question and had their balls handed to them on a plate.

i agree, suicide isnt a tragedy, an innocent person being murdered in cold blood is, or a person driving home and being killed by a drunk driver. i had 2 friends kill themselves and i wouldnt even go to there funeral because they chose there fate and decided to take the easy path. i lost people that didnt want to die and would of done anything to stay alive and see there family again. i have no pitty fo anyone that takes there own life

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by pietro75

i agree, suicide isnt a tragedy, an innocent person being murdered in cold blood is, or a person driving home and being killed by a drunk driver. i had 2 friends kill themselves and i wouldnt even go to there funeral because they chose there fate and decided to take the easy path. i lost people that didnt want to die and would of done anything to stay alive and see there family again. i have no pitty fo anyone that takes there own life

it's really sad that you and lex have that attitude toward it. i question how close these people were to you. coz i tell you what with the buddy i lost IT WAS a ****in' tragedy. the dude was 21 years old, he lost his older brother who raised him in a car crash, he was depressed and he gassed himself in the car that he and his brother spent two years building up. how is that not tragic. you know i think you guys are trying to act like big tuff men, but you're just ending up sounding like silly little boys. tell a parent who's lost a child to suicide that it's not a tragic loss. you just sound like ignorant fools, no offence

PT · 03-04-2008, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by jbonez19

it's really sad that you and lex have that attitude toward it. i question how close these people were to you. coz i tell you what with the buddy i lost IT WAS a ****in' tragedy. the dude was 21 years old, he lost his older brother who raised him in a car crash, he was depressed and he gassed himself in the car that he and his brother spent two years building up. how is that not tragic. you know i think you guys are trying to act like big tuff men, but you're just ending up sounding like silly little boys. tell a parent who's lost a child to suicide that it's not a tragic loss. you just sound like ignorant fools, no offence

actually it was one of my best friends that i have known since 1sr grade. how can i be sad if he wanted this? i lost my girlfriend of many years when a drunk driver hit our car a few years ago. she sure the hell didnt want to die but she didnt have a choice and that to me is sad not someone that chooses to end there life.

**Big** · 03-04-2008, 06:21 AM

This thread has outlived it's usefulness, time to close it.

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by pietro75

actually it was one of my best friends that i have known since 1sr grade. how can i be sad if he wanted this? i lost my girlfriend of many years when a drunk driver hit our car a few years ago. she sure the hell didnt want to die but she didnt have a choice and that to me is sad not someone that chooses to end there life.

agreed what happened to you and your girlfriend is really terrible, but i don't think that those two incidents need to be compared to each other. both things are very sad separately. it's more unfair that your girlfriends life was taken away like that, but it shouldn't make what happened to your buddy any less unfortunate either. that someone is so desperately unhappy that they would end their own life, is very bloody sad to me. i don't really see it as a choice either. i think they do it because they feel that they have no choice. anyway i extend you my sympathies for your losses. they're both tough things to deal with.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 03-04-2008, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Big

This thread has outlived it's usefulness, time to close it.

Ahem!!!!! What makes you think its ok to use my pic????

This could have been a useful thread to show a newbies progress on his first cycle.
I decided to remove my pics and was considering reposting them at a later stage when I have made more progress. Kind of like a before and after.

For anyone who cares....

Today is day 10 and I am wei***ng 212lbs
A weight gain of 19lbs so far.
Yeah I know, water! However I feel harder overall and strength has risen dramatically. Not as bloated as a few days ago(especially in face)-Nolvadex and Proviron .
I believe I will gain considerably more muscle and retain a lot of it long after cycle. Sure if I was eating and training like this off roids Id gain loads anyway so I think thats a no brainer!!!
The Vets disagree but time will tell. No need to mention that again.

Diet is around 5000calories right now. Again the vets hate my diet but its working great for ME!!! Sure theres room for improvement but Im not that anal nor am I a professional. On advice of here I reduced fruit and pre-bed carbs.
I fully expected to put on some fat and water weight and lose it after my cycle. Its not an issue for me.

**Big** · 03-04-2008, 07:12 AM

I will use any pic posted on any public site on the internet that I wish to use. There is no copyright therefore no copyright infringement. If you didn't want the pic to be public you shouldn't have posted it on an open forum.

**BIGDOGIRISH** · 03-04-2008, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by Big

I will use any pic posted on any public site on the internet that I wish to use. There is no copyright therefore no copyright infringement. If you didn't want the pic to be public you shouldn't have posted it on an open forum.

Well I hope everyone is getting a good view of what this site is about.
Mocking and belittling the newbie.

Bully tactics at its best!!!!

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Big

I will use any pic posted on any public site on the internet that I wish to use. There is no copyright therefore no copyright infringement. If you didn't want the pic to be public you shouldn't have posted it on an open forum.

it's not about copyright law. it's about being a decent human being. he took his picture down after you guys started ridiculing him mercilessly. you should step up, be a man and delete that picture. let him decide what he wants done with his pics. it's not your decision. everyone has the right to edit their post.

**Big** · 03-04-2008, 07:39 AM

any newbie who comes to a site like this and starts calling the vets and mods names because they want stats before giving cycle advice, has little room to critique. I will be nice and take your pic down, all I ask is check your attitude. I explained clearly why we ask for stats before giving advice, please take that into consideration.

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by Big

This thread has outlived it's usefulness, time to close it.

so you've had enough fun bashing the newbies, time to delete the evidence is that it. i'm really surprised admin/senior member hasn't stepped in here. i think some of the behaviour displayed by some long term members here has been outrageous. i suppose that's the advantage of belonging to a bitchy little clique. i would ask admin to step in and put a stop to it. enough is enough.

**Big** · 03-04-2008, 07:51 AM

I agreed to remove his pic even before I read your post. I'm on my phone doing this and it won't let me remove it, I will ask admin to remove it, or take it down myself when I get home. As for evidence, I said the thread should be locked, not deleted. This thread is out of hand and I don't condone all the behavior contained within, yet it is not my intention to hide this, just to lock it so it doesn't continue.

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Big

any newbie who comes to a site like this and starts calling the vets and mods names because they want stats before giving cycle advice, has little room to critique. I will be nice and take your pic down, all I ask is check your attitude. I explained clearly why we ask for stats before giving advice, please take that into consideration.

i don't think anyone is saying anything about the majority of the members. he's referring to the select few who got totally out of order during this thread.

**jbonez19** · 03-04-2008, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Big

I agreed to remove his pic even before I read your post. I'm on my phone doing this and it won't let me remove it, I will ask admin to remove it, or take it down myself when I get home. As for evidence, I said the thread should be locked, not deleted. This thread is out of hand and I don't condone all the behavior contained within, yet it is not my intention to hide this, just to lock it so it doesn't continue.

fair enough, sorry for getting so heated it has just really started to get under my skin, i agree it is out of hand. sorry