Primo- A viable substitute for Winny?

**animal013** · 10-10-2002, 09:48 AM

I was planning on the following:
Test En, 400mg/wk, 1 - 10
Eq, 400mg/wk, 1-10
Winny, 50mg ed, 7 - 12

And I planned on using finasteride throughout, b/c ALL the males in my family are bald, or well on their way. However, I found out that finasteride won't combat DHT derivatives, like Winny, so I'm looking for a replacement for the Winny in the above cycle. I wan't to bulk with this cycle, and I had planned on solidifying my gains with the last few weeks of winny. Could I use primo to accomplish this instead? And if so, how should it be ran? Thanks in advance for any help.

**Lattman** · 10-10-2002, 01:10 PM

I'll take Primo over Winnie any day....

**animal013** · 10-13-2002, 11:11 AM

self bump...

**4plates** · 10-13-2002, 11:53 AM

primo wii harden up your gains,run it at 300-400mg wk 8-13 ,at that low of a dose it will harden you up and wont shut you down so hard so you could probably go on clomid a few days to a wk out of the cycle

**animal013** · 10-14-2002, 06:27 AM

Thanks 4plates. Would the gains be comparable to what I would've gotten with the winny? And, would it be worthwhile to run the primo for the entire cycle, say weeks 1 - 12? I guess the biggest issue there would be $$ . . .

**4plates** · 10-14-2002, 12:15 PM

i think primo is a good comparison to winny,winny getting a 9 in my book and primo getting an 8.
if you want to run it throughout the cycle it could get very expensive at 400 mg wk,but if you have the$ go for it
if i were to use primo throughout a cycle i would lose the eq and run the primo at 600 mgwk.
personally it to much $$ for me and i would go with primo wk 8-13 at 300 mg wk

**animal013** · 10-14-2002, 03:56 PM

Hell, nevermind. I just read that primo is a DHT-derivative as well, so the proscar won't work for it either... I know hair loss sides vary from person to person, so I don't want to risk the primo.

Any more suggestions would be welcome. That is, suggestions for a short-acting AAS to use at the end of a bulking cycle to solidify gains and bridge until clomid, and most importantly, one whose effects on hair loss can be combated with proscar. Thanks guys.

**4plates** · 10-14-2002, 04:08 PM

ok heres one for ya
Test En, 400mg/wk, 1 - 10
Eq, 400mg/wk, 1-10
test prop 75 mg ed 11-13
clomid 3 days out

**animal013** · 10-15-2002, 03:20 PM

Sounds good, 4plates. That's probably what I'll do. I had thought about kickstarting the whole thing with some prop any way. Now, I can start and end the cycle with prop. Thanks.