A-dex and nolvadex during cycle

[manwitplans]

I read in the Cycle section, for newbies.

That I should run:

A-dex/L-dex @ 0.25mg / day
and nolvadex @ 10mg / day
During the whole course of the cycle.

Is it very crucial to run both of them, and won't that interfeer with gains?

Just trying to learn, and get the best out of my first cycle, whenever it comes. I can also add that I have a little gyno from puberty (predisposed to gyno I guess..)

[comsol1]

I read in the Cycle section, for newbies.

That I should run:

A-dex/L-dex @ 0.25mg / day
and nolvadex @ 10mg / day
During the whole course of the cycle.

Is it very crucial to run both of them, and won't that interfeer with gains?

Just trying to learn, and get the best out of my first cycle, whenever it comes. I can also add that I have a little gyno from puberty (predisposed to gyno I guess..)

IMO it would depend on what you are going to run and for how long. I honestyly ran 200mg/wk of deca for 12wks first time out the gate. On using both you dont need nolva if you are running adex. I ran arimidex most of last year and eliminating estrogen all together does inhibit gains. You will not hold water but at the same time you won't get as strong or big. Assuming you will be running smaller dosages out the gate I would say to just have nolva on hand in case you nips start to get sensitive. I've found that with high dosages and no AI I hold massive amounts of water and it really effects my blood pressure. Hope this helps.

[manwitplans]

Bumping this shit.
And I am probably going to use 500mg/week of test as the first cycle.

[big_dubya33]

Use A-dex during cycle. Nolva during pct to prevent estro rebound; nolva also helps stimulate natty test production. No need to use both at the same time during cycle IMO. If you need something stronger than a-dex just move to letro.

If you don't have concerns about gyno you can try to go with no estrogen protection or try using proviron only, which is milder and works synergistically with your test

Good luck

W

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

Outside the realm of bodybuilding and in the realm of breast cancer, nolvadex purportedly reduces the efficacy of arimidex and is therefore not recommended by the drug companies.

Even Anthony Robert's PCT (check out his thread) discourages the concurrent use of both compounds.

I personally have used both together without knowing the above and found no problem...sure, it makes adex less effective perhaps, but what the hey... however, now I take them separately because I know better (I hope ) AND it saves me $$$