Albuterol/T4/T3 Question

[PimpStick]

I am 4 weeks into a 13 week HRT cycle (2IU hGH daily, 1.5 mL Test-E weekly, 1.1 mL Deca weekly) and I have gone from:

OLD Stats:
6'2"
304 lbs
41% BF

to

NEW Stats:
6'2"
298 lbs
33% BF

The problem is that, even though the BF is dropping, the fat around my abs does not seem to be diminishing at all. My goal is to steadily lose 7-10 lbs. of BF a week. I have some Albuterol, T4 and T3. I have done some research and plan to take the following for 21 days:

Albuterol: 4 mg early am, 4 mg more noonish

T4: 100 mcg early am

T3: 25 mcg early am

I know T3 is not necessarily needed, but I have it, so I will add it to use it up.

ANY SUGGESTIONS/CRITIQUES?

[Nstart]

We don't really have the ability to spot reduce fat. We are all different and our bodies have slightly modified algorithms where to store fat and where to take it when it is needed. Even though our diet, age, activities, and activity level play a role in this, the majority of it, is out of our control.

The only proven way to spot reduce fat is liposuction.

At 33% body fat, you won't be seeing your abs anytime soon. You really need to hit the low teens before you can really see them.

Also keep in mind that while you lose fat, the elasticity of your skin will sag, which makes it even harder to see abs when you have extra skin and a little bit of "sticky fat" attached to that skin.

edit: 2 years ago, I lost somewhere in the 180-200lbs range so I know what you are going through. Hang in there, don't get frustrated, and you will see noticeable results EVERYWHERE in due time.

[jstraw428]

That is a ton of weight, good job Nstart...............Hang in there, for most people, the fat around the midsection and the butt, are some of the last places to go........

[Nstart]

How is your blood pressure and overall vital stats?

How old are you? You have to be careful with T3/T4 and Albuterol/Clenbuterol when you already have high blood pressure or a week heart as is the case with many overweight individuals.

[PimpStick]

We don't really have the ability to spot reduce fat. We are all different and our bodies have slightly modified algorithms where to store fat and where to take it when it is needed. Even though out diet, age, activities, and activity level play a role in this, the majority of it, is out of our control.

The only proven way to spot reduce fat is liposuction.

At 33% body fat, you won't be seeing your abs anytime soon. You really need to hit the low teens before you can really see them.

Also keep in mind that while you lose fat, the elasticity of your skin will sag, which makes it even harder to see abs when you have extra skin and a little bit of "sticky fat" attached to that skin.

Okay. But will the cycle as posted increase my overall fat loss while maintaining lean mass? The odd thing is that a few years ago I went from 270 and 35% BF to 212 and ~18% BF through ECA/Diet...but the midsection fat went fast?

[PimpStick]

That is a ton of weight, good job Nstart...............Hang in there, for most people, the fat around the midsection and the butt, are some of the last places to go........

Thanks!

[Nstart]

That is a ton of weight, good job Nstart...............Hang in there, for most people, the fat around the midsection and the butt, are some of the last places to go........

Thanks

I always wondered what kind of numbers I could have pulled with a low dosage cycle and T4/Clen . I didn't have gastric or use any medications. I did it with a good diet and exercise plan.

I lost the weight in under a year, but that question always pops when I read threads like this.

If I could do it all over again...

[PimpStick]

How is your blood pressure and overall vital stats?

How old are you? You have to be careful with T3/T4 and Albuterol/Clenbuterol when you already have high blood pressure or a week heart as is the case with many overweight individuals.

BP is well within normal range. Other vitals are normal.

I'm 36. No BP or heart problems. My lean mass has been as high as 207...but dropped in last few years.

[Nstart]

Okay. But will the cycle as posted increase my overall fat loss while maintaining lean mass? The odd thing is that a few years ago I went from 270 and 35% BF to 212 and ~18% BF through ECA/Diet...but the midsection fat went fast?

In theory it should help as long as your diet is in check. I firmly believe it is 80% diet, and 20% everything else (exercise, medication, etc...)

But read the second post I made in this thread. Do you really want to introduce anabolics, T3/T4 and Albuterol into your weightloss? How is your blood pressure, heart and overall vital signs?

In my experience (and the many failed diets that I tried) the first thing I ever did was introduce all sorts of supplements and I kind of wished they would do the bulk of the work for me. The only time it actually worked for me was when I took no weightloss supplements and just went on a strict diet and exercise routine.

[Nstart]

BP is well within normal range. Other vitals are normal.

I'm 36. No BP or heart problems. My lean mass has been as high as 207...but dropped in last few years.

I really don't know what to say. Like many people, we all fall back on the hope that the supplements we take will do the bulk of the work. The fact remains that YOU have to do the bulk of the work but keeping your diet in check and exercising (not only to build muscle/stop muscle loss but to also improve your cardiovascular system).

However, you have already lost a good chunk of weight, so you seem to not rely on the supplements to do the bulk of the work for you. I can't in good faith tell you to do this. This is something you have to decide for yourself.

Also, I'm not sure how albuterol has to used. I know with clen , you have you do 2 weeks on/2 weeks off or use benadryl every 3rd week to reactivate the fat receptors.

[PimpStick]

In theory it should help as long as your diet is in check. I firmly believe it is 80% diet, and 20% everything else (exercise, medication, etc...)

But read the second post I made in this thread. Do you really want to introduce anabolics, T3/T4 and Albuterol into your weightloss? How is your blood pressure, heart and overall vital signs?

In my experience (and the many failed diets that I tried) the first thing I ever did was introduce all sorts of supplements and I kind of wished they would do the bulk of the work for me. The only time it actually worked for me was when I took no weightloss supplements and just went on a strict diet and exercise routine.

My best was also good diet/workout/ECA stack. The only problem is that the AAS is HRT Dr. prescribed. I guess I would say that if I could lose an extra 15 lbs. of BF by using the T4/Clen during this cycle, I would say it IS WORTH IT.

[Nstart]

My best was also good diet/workout/ECA stack.

Then skip the T3/T4 and Albuterol/Clenbuterol and work with what works best!

Personally, I don't think I would take those drugs for 15lbs. The risk isn't worth it to me if I know an extra 2-3 weeks of dieting with net me the exact same result.

You've already done very well without it. I can understand why you want to add these supplements, but at the same time, look at what you have done without them.

[jstraw428]

Thanks

I always wondered what kind of numbers I could have pulled with a low dosage cycle and T4/Clen . I didn't have gastric or use any medications. I did it with a good diet and exercise plan.

I lost the weight in under a year, but that question always pops when I read threads like this.

If I could do it all over again...

You should be awarded a medal, lost all that weight through good diet and exercise.......its people like you, who make this board a better place....thanks for all your hard work.....you earned it....

[PimpStick]

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[RikuY]

I would say don't add it. A new HRT program and working out is cause for keeping with it and see what it does. You are only 4 weeks in. You are on the right road to getting fitter, don't use Alb/Clen /T4/T3 because it seems you are a yo-yo weight loser. Put in some time, do the hard work, fine tune your diet. Investing all that will make you think twice about letting it all go again.

I am going through this right now. I have lost 47 pounds this year. Nowhere near Nstart, (GREAT JOB), but sweating in the gym, no alcohol, and strict dieting is working for me. The gym has been an important part of my life since high school, but the thing that changed my progress is learning about my diet and what to eat. The Diet section here, and the owner of my gym are to thank for that! Fine-tuning a good cutting diet, and sticking to it, will give you more results than the chemicals you are thinking of adding.

[Wavelover]

From 304 to 298 lbs is not enough. Plenty of room for improvement.
According to a study abd fat will reduced if the whole body weigh loss significantly.

[PimpStick]

I would say don't add it. A new HRT program and working out is cause for keeping with it and see what it does. You are only 4 weeks in. You are on the right road to getting fitter, don't use Alb/Clen /T4/T3 because it seems you are a yo-yo weight loser. Put in some time, do the hard work, fine tune your diet. Investing all that will make you think twice about letting it all go again.

I am going through this right now. I have lost 47 pounds this year. Nowhere near Nstart, (GREAT JOB), but sweating in the gym, no alcohol, and strict dieting is working for me. The gym has been an important part of my life since high school, but the thing that changed my progress is learning about my diet and what to eat. The Diet section here, and the owner of my gym are to thank for that! Fine-tuning a good cutting diet, and sticking to it, will give you more results than the chemicals you are thinking of adding.

Thanks to all of you. I will not start the Clen/T4 now. I might wait and start it during my PCT between AAS cycles...I'll check back in then!