first cyce ever Help me out please

**Sham** · 04-30-2008, 04:31 PM

I am planning to do my first cycle in two weeks time of

weeks 1-9 of test e at 350mgs a week
weeks 1-3 of tbol at 30mg ed
weeks 9-11 of var at 30mg ed
also i will be running proscar at 1mg ed throughout with nizoral and spiro
weeks
weeks 12-15 nolva at 40/40/20/20

My questions to you
Can i run hcg at weeks ten and 11 while taking the anavar ? Also should i use the hcg a few weeks b4 i stop the test e?

also i wanted to run nolva in the cycle to keep the estrogen down as i cannot get a Ai. should i run the nolva from the start or a few weeks in?

Will the var help solidfy my gains along with a good diet?

Also i have been training for about 4 years and my goals are from the cycle to put lean mass on. and im 5,11 and 185lb with 10%bf

Your help would be really appreciated

**Sham** · 04-30-2008, 04:35 PM

Also i hae some clen about two weeks worth could i throw that in?

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 04-30-2008, 04:56 PM

age?

**Sham** · 04-30-2008, 05:00 PM

im 22

**MasterShake** · 04-30-2008, 05:10 PM

Well, that's a small dose of a long ester in a short cycle... I'd search for the thread on beginners cycles, and do some more research about the var before using it to extend a cycle by its self.

**jAcKeD!!!!** · 04-30-2008, 05:13 PM

9 weeks with a long ester is to short,
first cycle is best with TEST only.
run it for 12 week with pct and set aside the rest for another cycle.
gl

**Sham** · 04-30-2008, 05:14 PM

i thaught that the test is going to stay in my system for two weeks after the last test shot so the var would not be on its own, also i dont want to run the test at 500mg a week i want to see how my body reacts to the test e

**Sham** · 04-30-2008, 05:15 PM

Also i have used var and tbol before

**MasterShake** · 04-30-2008, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by jAcKeD!!!!

9 weeks with a long ester is to short,
first cycle is best with TEST only.
run it for 12 week with pct and set aside the rest for another cycle.
gl

Agreed, you can find the protocol by searching beginners cycles. the 350mgs will work, but you'd be more pleased with the results of a slightly higher dose. start your anti e if you notice too much water retention, but only a small dose so you don't hinder gains.

**Sham** · 04-30-2008, 05:23 PM

when you say small doses how much are you talking about?

**nextmans** · 05-01-2008, 06:44 PM

im a n00b myself, but from the research i've done it looks like you have way too many compounds for your first cycle
from what i gather, a suitable first cycle would be Test only at 400-600mg or so per wk for 10-12wks