aspirate and needles?

**jmoose** · 05-01-2008, 02:51 PM

How exactly do you apirate when injecting? And is it impossible to inject test with a insulin needle?

**slvrwrx** · 05-01-2008, 02:54 PM

To aspirate pull back on the plunger when the needle is seated into the muscle. If you are not in a vein a tiny air bubble will appear that means you are clear to inject, if you pull back and there is blood you are in a vein and need to re inject. An insulin needle is too small and will not be deep enough in the muscle i use 25g 1inch for quads shoulders ect.. and 23g 1 1/2 inch for glutes

**jmoose** · 05-01-2008, 02:56 PM

how far should you pull back on the plunger though?

**slvrwrx** · 05-01-2008, 02:57 PM

only until you see the tiny bubble the will be pressure so not that far. You will know if you are in a vein it is rather easy to draw up blood

**legobricks** · 05-01-2008, 03:01 PM

Correct, if you see bubbles your good to go. When you let go of the plunger it should be like a vacuum pulling the plunger back in.

**jmoose** · 05-01-2008, 03:01 PM

oh alright appreciate it. what the easiest way to get the proper sized syringes?

**legobricks** · 05-01-2008, 03:02 PM

www.ar-r.com

I go with 25g 1 inch becuase i dont shoot my glutes.

**slvrwrx** · 05-01-2008, 03:02 PM

depending on where you live you can go to a phamacy or you can order them online

**Jacoby** · 05-01-2008, 03:04 PM

Yeah I just hit up CVS and pay like $25 for a box of 100.

**jmoose** · 05-01-2008, 03:06 PM

a pharmacy doest require a prescription?

**slvrwrx** · 05-01-2008, 03:08 PM

It depends on the state you live in but most of them no they may limit you to the amount you buy and sometimes the phamacists give you shit about it

**jmoose** · 05-01-2008, 03:10 PM

i live in new york. and i think im going to shoot into my glute what does the gram amount mean though. i understand it should be 1 1/2 length but dont know what the importance of the gram is?

**slvrwrx** · 05-01-2008, 03:15 PM

I live in NY as well and it was hit or miss with the pharms you may be better off ordering yours but u can get them without a scrupt i think only 10 at a time the law says. Some phamacists give you shit and say you need a script but u dont. As for the g its stands for gauge that the actual size of the needle i guess diameter as for 1 1/2 is the length

**jmoose** · 05-01-2008, 03:18 PM

yeah i just looked online and under the esap law that came out in 2003 in new york you can buy hypodermic needles with out a script 10 at a time but it says something about filling out paper work. anybody know how long that process takes to get the paperwork filled out?

**slvrwrx** · 05-01-2008, 03:20 PM

all you need to do is write your name in a book its not much paperwork i think it asks your name address and maybe the purpose i dont remeber if it asks the purposed it if does b12

**duggadoo** · 05-01-2008, 05:10 PM

just order off Ar-r .com they are quick and you can get the amount you need all at once took like 5 days to get mine

**tantan350** · 05-02-2008, 10:31 AM

Does it take everyone around 7-10 mins to draw 2cc of oil out??

I too use 25g x 1in

I'm assuming its because the gauge needle is so thin.

I too only usually go for my delt's, tri's, bi's, and just recently experimented in my pec's (which wasn't all too bad- I wouldn't do a 1.5 in pin in there though...only 1 in)

Even when I go in my quad, I still use the 25g x 1 in pin...do you think I'm hitting the muscle or just the subc tissue (don't even wanna hurt my brain trying to spell subcutaneous- sp?, LOL)
It's too hard for me to go in my glute and aspirate and not hit a vein...maybe because I'm lefty...hehe

Peace all...

**Ostrich** · 05-02-2008, 11:49 AM

I just switched from 25ga to 23ga 1". I havent noticed a difference in pain but drawing up and injecting is a lot easier. Im gonna stick with 23ga.

**slvrwrx** · 05-02-2008, 11:51 AM

I used different pins to draw with i use an 18 gauge top then swith to either 23 or 25 depending on where in shooting. With 18g it draws so fast

**Phate** · 05-02-2008, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by JRoadZ

Does it take everyone around 7-10 mins to draw 2cc of oil out??
it shouldn't, use a bigger guage to draw out the liquid and switch needles to shoot, or warm it up by putting the vial in warm water for a minute, not submerged, but halfway up or so

I too use 25g x 1in

I'm assuming its because the gauge needle is so thin.

I too only usually go for my delt's, tri's, bi's, and just recently experimented in my pec's (which wasn't all too bad- I wouldn't do a 1.5 in pin in there though...only 1 in)

Even when I go in my quad, I still use the 25g x 1 in pin...do you think I'm hitting the muscle or just the subc tissue (don't even wanna hurt my brain trying to spell subcutaneous- sp?, LOL) if you are lean then you can use a 1 inch for your glute, you'd be able to tell if you did a sub-q as there would be a bubble formed from the oil being injected into one spot
It's too hard for me to go in my glute and aspirate and not hit a vein...maybe because I'm lefty...hehe

Peace all...

btw, don't highjack someone's thread with your own question, i answered because it was on the same subject, but i'm just telling you so you don't get in trouble later

**lex57** · 05-02-2008, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by JRoadZ

Does it take everyone around 7-10 mins to draw 2cc of oil out??

I too use 25g x 1in

I'm assuming its because the gauge needle is so thin.

I too only usually go for my delt's, tri's, bi's, and just recently experimented in my pec's (which wasn't all too bad- I wouldn't do a 1.5 in pin in there though...only 1 in)

Even when I go in my quad, I still use the 25g x 1 in pin...do you think I'm hitting the muscle or just the subc tissue (don't even wanna hurt my brain trying to spell subcutaneous- sp?, LOL)
It's too hard for me to go in my glute and aspirate and not hit a vein...maybe because I'm lefty...hehe

Peace all...

i timed it one time, with a 23g needle, average about 20 seconds per ml.