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    Smile Hi guys give advice for my first cycle.

    well am 20 and a half and wish to start a cycle in 8-10 months. What's available to me is only sustanon 250,Dbol and Deca . I would have choose other test like Enanthate for a first cycle but other test are not available where i live. So i decided to use Sustanon and Dbol for my first cycle.

    Sustanon250 500mg/week- 250mg on monday and thursday. If i find out that injection is easy,then i will do it 125mg EOD. I will run Sus for 10 weeks.

    About Dbol i want to run it for 4 week at 15mg ED.

    PCT i will be using Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 3weeks after my cycle.

    maybe i could add some clomid also. I will be trying to find out if Letro is available here where i live. If it is then i will try to buy it

    Height- 5'6

    Weight-170lbs

    Training-4years

    Thank you very much. Any comment will be appreciated good or bad. am still doing research so i will don't mind.

    Note:sorry for the bad english

    EDIT: am around 14-15% fat right now. Am bulking right now and will cut till 10-12% before the cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureRoider View Post
    well am 20 and a half and wish to start a cycle in 8-10 months. What's available to me is only sustanon 250,Dbol and Deca . I would have choose other test like Enanthate for a first cycle but other test are not available where i live. So i decided to use Sustanon and Dbol for my first cycle.

    Sustanon250 500mg/week- 250mg on monday and thursday. If i find out that injection is easy,then i will do it 125mg EOD. I will run Sus for 10 weeks. The best option.

    About Dbol i want to run it for 4 week at 15mg ED. Up to 30mg

    PCT i will be using Nolva 40/40/20/20/20 3weeks after my cycle. 2 weeks after cycle will be fine

    maybe i could add some clomid also. I will be trying to find out if Letro is available here where i live. If it is then i will try to buy it Yes do

    Height- 5'6

    Weight-170lbs

    Training-4years

    Thank you very much. Any comment will be appreciated good or bad. am still doing research so i will don't mind.

    Note:sorry for the bad english

    EDIT: am around 14-15% fat right now. Am bulking right now and will cut till 10-12% before the cycle.
    Answers in red fella.

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    What shifty said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks View Post
    What shifty said.
    Lazy pants.

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    hehe thx a lot for the advice. any other comment will be appreciated.

    15mg Dbol is considered to be too low i guess??

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    Quote Originally Posted by legobricks View Post
    What shifty said.
    haha i lold at your avatar. Big Bad Wolf FTW!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureRoider View Post
    hehe thx a lot for the advice. any other comment will be appreciated.

    15mg Dbol is considered to be too low i guess??
    Listen to shifty!

    You are using the dbol as a kicker and 30mg ed is good for your weight, 15mg ed won't help as much. BTW spread it out through out the day, i.e. 10mg morning, 10mg afternoon and 10mg before bed.

    How does your diet look?

    Good thing when you start this cycle you will be 21 and a quarter...

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    How's your actual diet? are you eating enough?

    You don't have to switch to eod injection if you find them easy to do.
    YOU HAVE to do them every other day, because Sust contains some short esters within.
    Injecting it twice per week will probably cause some undesired sides due to the unstable levels injected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RANA View Post
    Listen to shifty!

    You are using the dbol as a kicker and 30mg ed is good for your weight, 15mg ed won't help as much. BTW spread it out through out the day, i.e. 10mg morning, 10mg afternoon and 10mg before bed.

    How does your diet look?

    Good thing when you start this cycle you will be 21 and a quarter...
    Ok then. Thx. Btw do you recommend if i run nolva during cycle at very low dose?

    Well i'll be eating lots of sweet potato,oats,eggs,tuna,chicken,milk and protein shakes. I will try to get at least 200g of protein per day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckLee View Post
    How's your actual diet? are you eating enough?

    You don't have to switch to eod injection if you find them easy to do.
    YOU HAVE to do them every other day, because Sust contains some short esters within.
    Injecting it twice per week will probably cause some undesired sides due to the unstable levels injected.
    oh thx for the information. "Is injecting Sust EOD only applied for the first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureRoider View Post
    oh thx for the information. "Is injecting Sust EOD only applied for the first cycle?
    Sus used any time should be injected EOD due to it containing prop estered test.

    The less fluctuations the less sides.

    Some guys do get away with just twice a week with no issues,
    But then others take the risk and they end up covered in chronic acne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shifty_git View Post
    Sus used any time should be injected EOD due to it containing prop estered test.

    The less fluctuations the less sides.

    Some guys do get away with just twice a week with no issues,
    But then others take the risk and they end up covered in chronic acne.
    Ah ok. I guess it was a great idea joining this forum,learning loads of things.

    What i know is that Sust came up with 250mg vial. well you use 125mg from it. And what about the remaining 125mg? put it into the refrigerator?

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    hey guys i will need your help once again. Since sust is very cheap here,what about taking 750mg/week for a first cycle. that is taking 250mg on monday,wednesday and saturday? Or should i stick with 500mg?

    In fact we get the pakistan sust here and a friend told me that the quality is not as good as others so 750mg would be better.

    Any recomendation thx
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    EDIT that price out. It's not allowed to discuss about prices in the open board.

    Read the rules plese, than I'll help you again

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    oops sorry done

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    If your pharm grade sust is legit, its quality is even better than any UGL sust. Inject it 125mg EOD.

    It will suffice at all for a first cycle. They'll be about 440mg/week

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckLee View Post
    If your pharm grade sust is legit, its quality is even better than any UGL sust. Inject it 125mg EOD.

    It will suffice at all for a first cycle. They'll be about 440mg/week
    oh ok understood!

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