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    Lean Summer Bulker-Expert Opinions Appreciated

    Here is My Planned 11 week cycle to add some real lean mass:

    Test Prop 150 mg EOD (1.5cc's) for 11 weeks
    Winstrol 100 mg EOD (2 cc's) for 11 weeks
    Tren A 100 mg EOD (1 cc ) for 11 weeks
    Equipoise 200 mg EOD (1 cc) for 11 weeks

    To kick start, will use:
    DBOL tabs 50 mg ED for 4 weeks
    Mibolerone 100 mcg per tab X 2 ED 30 min. Pre-W/O for first 2 weeks

    Have Oral Masteron , Anavar , Letro, Clenbuterol , and Ketotifen on hand as well to give some possible options.

    PCT:
    Nolva 40 mg first day; 20 mg ED for 6-8 wks
    Clomid 200 mg ED wk 1, 100 mg ED wk 2-3, 50 mg ED wk 4-6

    Currently been off 11 weeks and am 24 yrs old, 5'10" 190 lbs w/ 8% bf.
    3 cycles done previously (included in profile info)

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    I wouldnt run winny and tren for the full 11 weeks.
    And I wouldnt have dbol in a lean bulk cycle.

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    well i am aware that DBol is used just as a kick-start to my cycle The first 4 weeks I dont mind about water retention much bc Im lean already and its not hard to shred up ...I could run Oral Masteron instead though.
    Do you think I should use Winny and Tren for only 8 weeks? I knew somewhere betw 8 and 10 was fine.

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    If you can switch out dbol for tbol....less bloat.

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    well I have no T-Bol...but as previously mentioned I have Letro to control the water retention if necessary, and also could substitute DBOL for Oral Masteron or Anavar . Im just attempting to get as many solid other opinions to consider

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    i very well understand the bloat factor of dbols, but if ur diet doesnt allow you to swell up like a fish then it wont happen, from personal experience i used 20 mg/d of dbol and didnt get any bloat b/c of my diet! Also what is the reason behind the EQ in this cycle {no offense to EQ, personally i love it} And you def dont need the tren and winni in there for 11 weeks, that is way to long, shorten that to 8 weeks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1115 View Post
    i very well understand the bloat factor of dbols, but if ur diet doesnt allow you to swell up like a fish then it wont happen, from personal experience i used 20 mg/d of dbol and didnt get any bloat b/c of my diet! Also what is the reason behind the EQ in this cycle {no offense to EQ, personally i love it} And you def dont need the tren and winni in there for 11 weeks, that is way to long, shorten that to 8 weeks!
    I say keep the EQ...its a great addition to the tren .

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    I realize the EQ is the only long-estered injectable of the substances I have in there. I simply love the pumps it gives me and I am looking to find a reasonable way to put it in my lean bulking cycle. I am using Test Prop, Tren A, and Winny for sure..bc they give me a Test, a 19-nor, and a DHT derived combo...Was looking for a way to sneak in the EQ and tryin to decide which of my available orals (Dbol , Masteron , or Anavar ) to use to kick start my cycle

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    I think now Im leaning towards shooting ED. .75 cc's Prop mixed with 1 cc EQ........ED AND 1 cc Winny mixed with .5 cc Tren .......ED
    That would be 525 mg Test Prop EW
    350 mg Eq EW
    350 mg Winny EW AND
    350 mg Tren A EW
    Does the weekly dosage seem adequate? I just want to use moderate doses

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    Quote Originally Posted by SECdominance View Post
    I realize the EQ is the only long-estered injectable of the substances I have in there. I simply love the pumps it gives me and I am looking to find a reasonable way to put it in my lean bulking cycle. I am using Test Prop, Tren A, and Winny for sure..bc they give me a Test, a 19-nor, and a DHT derived combo...Was looking for a way to sneak in the EQ and tryin to decide which of my available orals (Dbol, Masteron, or Anavar) to use to kick start my cycle
    You have a lot of compounds in that cycle. Personally I think prop tren and EQ will be more than enough. Or you could swap the EQ for winny and only run it for 6 or 8 weeks.
    Kick start it with var.

    I also noticed that you only kept 8lbs from your last cycle which consisted of prop tren and winni. Did you cut a lot of fat on that cutting cycle?

    I would run it like this:
    week 1-4 Var at 80 mg/day
    week 1-10 Prop 150mg EOD
    week 1-10 Tren A 100mg/day
    week 4-10 winny 100mg/day

    Wont need a 12 week cycle with all those short esters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SECdominance View Post
    I think now Im leaning towards shooting ED. .75 cc's Prop mixed with 1 cc EQ........ED AND 1 cc Winny mixed with .5 cc Tren .......ED
    That would be 525 mg Test Prop EW
    350 mg Eq EW
    350 mg Winny EW AND
    350 mg Tren A EW
    Does the weekly dosage seem adequate? I just want to use moderate doses
    Thats good, but your EQ dose is too low. Personally I wouldnt go less than 500mg/week.

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    well that cycle you spoke of was a bit flawed. The only winny I had at the time was an oral, and that particular Tren I used was QV...which means likely underdosed and fake in some cases...and yes the weight I list is the weight after PCT. Low..yes...but quality is more important than quality

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    Quote Originally Posted by SECdominance View Post
    well that cycle you spoke of was a bit flawed. The only winny I had at the time was an oral, and that particular Tren I used was QV...which means likely underdosed and fake in some cases...and yes the weight I list is the weight after PCT. Low..yes...but quality is more important than quality

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    I dont like shooting Prop without a component with it to lessen the pain. Thats why I am planning on using it with EQ or Winny Every time I shoot Prop...
    So basically any regimen I have in this cycle needs to include a substance to add in my prop shot....and if anyoen is wondering I dont wanna get B-12 or some kinda of cutting oil ...I am going to use only what I have

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    typo...quantity... Damnit!

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