test cyp + winny

**thrillam** · 05-13-2008, 11:24 AM

hey guys,

so i was thinking about starting a test cyp and winny cycle

test cyp 2cc once a week, ( 1 cc in each shoulder) -- the reason that its 2cc is that summer is coming up fast wanna have it
done in time for them chicks in short skirts..

winny caps ( 50mg ed)
1500mg or milk thisle ed.. going start it a week before the cycle and go all through out..
and how long should this cycle be??

for pct.. i have nolvadex and clomid on hand.. which one would be better in this case??
is there anything else i would need for the pct??

24, 5'7 175lb, not to sure about bf%

the goal would be to gain some more lean mass
but as well cut down around 4% bf.

i was reading the forums earlier, someone is doing this as his first cycle and
says he loved it. the injections arent painfull, the is insane strength increase and that in 3.5 weeks hes gone down close to 3% bf from 15 to 12.

is this a reasonable good first inject cycle?? and with a clean diet, mostly consisting of protein, a small amount of good clean cards and 20 min of cardio everyday after each lift should i be able to reach my goal??

if this is a bad idea feal free to suggest any other cycles..

i started a test e, test cyp and tren e cycle did 4 shots so it on it for a bout 2 weeks, however i was getting a weird reaction to it.. i would get really swollen biceps, so it seems like it was traveling from the shoulder down the arm.. i had a 25 guage pin.. the skin was red and very itchy.. looked like i had burns on my hand.. i decided to stop it.. deff not ready for the tren..

but ya any advice would be great about this cycle..

thanks in advance

**New2Anabolic** · 05-13-2008, 11:53 AM

**smokethedays** · 05-13-2008, 12:02 PM

why would u shoot 1cc each shoulder???

**thrillam** · 05-13-2008, 12:08 PM

i was told to just spread it like that.. i could just do 2 cc in each..
but will the swelling be really bad??

**smokethedays** · 05-13-2008, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by thrillam

i was told to just spread it like that.. i could just do 2 cc in each..
but will the swelling be really bad??

swelling?
Just take 1 cc twice a week, and rotate ur injection sites.
I'm assuming ur test is 200mg/ml which is the most common dose for Test Cyp.
so week 1-12 Test cyp
week 4-12 Winstrol 50mg/day
week 14-16 PCT

**Bulldog1115** · 05-13-2008, 12:15 PM

dont do milk thistle throughout the cycle, do it before and after cycle!

**thrillam** · 05-13-2008, 12:18 PM

but orals are harsh on the liver
and i got winny caps..

**smokethedays** · 05-13-2008, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bulldog1115

dont do milk thistle throughout the cycle, do it before and after cycle!

why not?
Just do you milk thistle as you go, between 1000mg to 1500 mg/day is good.

**thrillam** · 05-13-2008, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by smokethedays

swelling?
Just take 1 cc twice a week, and rotate ur injection sites.
I'm assuming ur test is 200mg/ml which is the most common dose for Test Cyp.
so week 1-12 Test cyp
week 4-12 Winstrol 50mg/day
week 14-16 PCT

kk sounds good.. and injecting in the delts should be fine?
ya its 200mg/ml

so then this is a good cycle u figure?