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    Is nolv bad for cycle?

    just want to know if it will reck my cycle?

    I is all i have to take for gyno.

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    It will not wreck your cycle in terms of gains but should not be taken with cycles that contain 19-nors like deca or tren . What is your cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by macjoe76 View Post
    just want to know if it will reck my cycle?

    I is all i have to take for gyno.
    what are you taking for your cycle?

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    For starters we would need to know the cycle. There are some reports that nolva used in conjunction with cycles containing a 19nor like deca or tren could increase the chances of gyno related to prolactin.

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    1-12 600mg tent en
    1-10 500mg daca
    4 iu jyn per day
    Last edited by macjoe76; 05-29-2008 at 01:33 PM.

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    too late. your screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    It will not wreck your cycle in terms of gains but should not be taken with cycles that contain 19-nors like deca or tren. What is your cycle?
    i am taking

    deca and enath 600mg per week, and 4iu per day of jyn.

    Why is deca bad with nolv?

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    i am not sure what tent is but you should not take nolva with deca it will make gyno worse. You need an AI like letro or Adex, they work better anyways but will have slight effect on gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by im83931 View Post
    too late. your screwed.
    im not sure how to use this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macjoe76 View Post
    i am taking

    deca and enath 600mg per week, and 4iu per day of jyn.

    Why is deca bad with nolv?
    deca does not convert to estrogen but it's a progestin and binds to the PgR and SERMs like nolva increase PgR thus increasing your gyno. AIs will decrease progestorone as well as estrogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    i am not sure what tent is but you should not take nolva with deca it will make gyno worse. You need an AI like letro or Adex, they work better anyways but will have slight effect on gains.
    I already started taking it because of sensitivty. it seems to be working.

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    Why not take proviron 50mged throughout the cycle?!

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    It maybe your gyno is being caused by the conversion of test to estrogen. Once the nolva starts to increase the Pg receptors you may have that issue to deal with from the deca .

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    I mean you should've had an AI on hand for gyno. and if it's prolactin induced then you shouldve had caber. These are the basics of running a cycle.
    One of the most important rules is this: always have all of your compounds including pct on hand before you begin your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macjoe76 View Post
    im not sure how to use this!
    Its cool bro, i would just order an AI from our boards sponsor www.ar-r.com id opt for liquidex over letro tho but either will work fine.

    Nolva has been shown in studies to increase PgR while using 19nors such as deca and tren . PgR is the Progesterone Receptor and with more active, it gives more chances of the metabolites to bind to increasing gyno. I know people who were fine while using nolva and deca but everyone is not the same. To be on the safe side, order some liquidex or letro and start on .25mg ED until sides subside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kfrost06 View Post
    It maybe your gyno is being caused by the conversion of test to estrogen. Once the nolva starts to increase the Pg receptors you may have that issue to deal with from the deca.
    thanks for info

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    Quote Originally Posted by macjoe76 View Post
    im not sure how to use this!
    quick do some reading before you have to get a bra..i would start with arimidex and if that dosent work then go to letro...letro is harder on you liver and will kill your sex drive...but do what you have to do brother

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    out of curiosity, what is your pct?

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