Getting Rediculous -- EQ Only Cycle -- Dont laugh just look

[oc pitbull]

lean pockets for dinner? Thats kinda amazing that you even admitted that.



watch this educational video on the nutritional benefits of a hot pocket...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zewDAa99Ns8

hahaha epic

[bobo0101]

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[binder]

yep, your diet and training sucks.

I put on 30lbs of muscle with diet and a great training program natural. Many people do it. You're just expecting steroids to do everything for you. you have to put the right food in there and train hard in the correct way.

like i tell all people, steroids don't make you big, your training and diet does. steroids just maximize it. a fatass on a couch won't gain muscle by juicing.

[QuieTSToRM33]

I looked ... and I laughed.

[Reed]

nobody ever said anything about bulking... and i only suggested that eq time/dosage bc thats all that i have right now. also, im not going 2 ever be taking test @ or around 500mg again until im ready 2 have no hair.. thats y im trying to go with something like deca or eq with maybe A LITTLE bit of test like around 2-300mg (if i absolutely have to)

STILL NOBODY HAS ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT I HAVENT MADE A SINGLE GAIN IN 6 MONTHS WITH EATING 2-300G OF PROTEIN/DAY... SH*TTY DIET OR NOT I STILL SHOULD HAVE PROGRESSED WITH SOMETHING SO ANY COMMENTS ON THAT (ITS BC OF THE PREVIOUS CYCLES CORRECT? OR R PEOPLE IN DENIAL ABOUT THE ABILITY 2 BUILD MUSCLE NATURALLY AFTER CYCLING)?????

ALSO, WHAT WOULD I BE ABLE 2 TAKE WITH AN EQ OR DECA CYCLE TO KEEP MY LIBIDO UP?????????????????????????????

Maybe this will help you. You need to understand that not all calories are created equal. You need high quality protein source, eggs, chicken, steak,etc. Also you need to understand not all people are created equal. Just cause you see Ronnie coleman literally soaking his chicken in bbq sauce several weeks from the Olympia doesn't me you can too. If the same diet has worked so far why would you not change it up.

Also I'm confusing on your goals, you want to take EQ or deca stand alone. You tend to get bloated on deca and eq is more of a slow build up of muscle. What exactly are you trying to do?? And test is what you would use to keep libido up

[cutting_king]

I hate to repeat what people have said over and over but there really can't be enough emphasis put on how important food is. You can eat hot pockets and pizza's and crap like that but they contain whats known as "empty calories". Calories that your body finds hard to use (for building muscle or anything else). So you can eat thousands of them and still not get much in the way of progress. People talk about not thinking about steroids as the "magic bean" of growth. And they are absolutely right. The real magic bean of growth is food. I was blown away by how my progress and gains improved once i got my diet sorted out. It was like being on gear...without the gear (or fat head)
Anyway i've not been on gear in a long while now, just the occasional cycle of IGF to help with cutting and i've been able to make better, more sustainable gains without gear than i ever did when i did gear but had a crap diet.
Anyway i noticed you got a bit pissed that you felt people weren't answering your question of why you have had no progress but in almost every response this question has been answered. Diet. Thats what it comes down to. I dont think it has anything to do with past cycles simply for the fact that i have had personal experience that shows you can still have very pleasing results if you are dedicated.
So although these aren't the answers you want to hear i am quite sure they are the right ones. Sure it would be a lot easier if it was something that could be fixed by taking a pill but the truth is fixing a diet takes a lot more effort. If you want the results that bad....make the change

Rant over

King

[bulbuous]

BMG, I busted a nut watching that hotpocket spot. faaaak!

[MojoNoir]

I will be doing an EQ only cycle 10wks @400mg/wk .... i refuse to do test again until im ready for every hair on my head to be GONE.

Ya know, masturbation wont really make you go blind - and the callouses arent really that bad either.

Lower the EQ, add test and get your diet in order.

And don't get so stressed at the answers you're getting. Just cuz you may not like the replies doesn't mean they aren't on target.

[MR_T]

[QUOTE=BGIZZLE8629;4029270].. and my diet does suck but i still get a decent amount of protein..hmm lets c here.. and if i put my calories anywhere above 3500 i start getting fat.. the bf is actually about 15 now but thats still not good... QUOTE]

Had the same problem, stick with skinless bonless chicken, tuna and lean steak for most of your protein and it'll be all good... also limit your fat intake and work on your routine.. there might be a problem there too, my advice is to check out mikexxl's lean bulking diet and use one of the sample routines on this fourm for a couple of months and you will see progress.. I was in the same boat when I came to this site and all the hazing got me to work on my diet and I've gained 8lbs all natty since May.. almost glad I got scammed buying from a source online

[numbat]

Yep that there deca will surely have the libido in high gear. I along with many others have fought the diet demons man(I still do). Rework the eating, give it six months, and then if you must, hit the juice again.

[DrHoliday]

Yo whats up? Havent been on here in a while but here i am with another problem... So i was looking @ my stats (bf, wt, muscle mass) and realized that i havent put on ANY muscle WHATSOEVER in the past 6 months!!!!
I have done 3 cycles so far 1)tren + winny (****ed it up - was only 18yrs) 2)test cyp. with proviron (decent - good results) and 3)SD cycle (minimal results - got sick) Ive also f*cked with stupid "prohormones" like Viraloid and 17HD and also novedex xt all in the distant past b4 my first cycle...

So i have heard that after doin cycles of steroids that it is alot harder for the body 2 gain muscle without them. THIS HAS TO BE TRUE!!
I have been eating alot/healthy and takin in at least 200-265 grams of protein/day for the last several months and am getting no results.. I recently found out that I have high bp (need 2 get that checked again bc i was sick then) so idk if that has anything 2 do with it but I will be getting bloodwork done in about a week or so for all the important sh*t (liver/kidney values, cholesterol, cbc, ect..) I have been taking in about 30g of whey before i lift and 60g of whey (wheybolic or ON gold standard) IMMEDIATELY after lifting and i just started taking edcysterone (600mg/day) last week, i also use a multi, and take glutamine but NO RESULTS!!! Idk if i have an insulin problem or what, like idk if i need to take in more carbs after lifting bc my body puts on fat too easy when i do that...

I AM BECOMING VERY DISCOURAGED AND HAVE ALMOST WANTED TO GIVE UP ENTIRELY @ TIMES!!!!!! SO PLEASE HELP ME!!!

ANYWAYS SO THE REASON FOR MY POST IS THIS: I will be doing an EQ only cycle 10wks @400mg/wk (after bloodwork checks out ok) and i need to know what I can take to keep my libido up and going bc i refuse to do test again until im ready for every hair on my head to be GONE. Im doing this cycle bc I am getting ABSOLUTELY NO RESULTS NATURALLY

Also, if there are any special supplements or any other "tricks" to muscle building that i dont know about then let me know! I have been lifting/researching like a mad man for the past 4years or so and have switched things up/experimented with just about every product and every program available to mankind. I NEED ALOT OF HELP IN MANY DIFFERENT ASPECTS SO SORRY FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS BUT:
1) WHATS WRONG WITH ME
2) WHAT SHOULD I TAKE WITH EQ TO KEEP MY LIBIDO UP
3) ARE THERE ANY OTHER SUPPS./TRICKS I SHOULD TRY OUT

THANKS ALOT EVERYONE I REALLY APPRECIATE IT!

ummm, have u researched at all? i haven't checked if neone else mentioned this, but u say nothing about PCT, are u taking PCT after ur cycles?

[BGIZZLE8629]

HAHAHA! LMAO! this is hilarious... but yea the pizza is 4 when i dont have groceries (that means that its not on a regular basis i.e. its not an every day thing..k?) and the lean pockets are in case im n a hurry and just need 2 make something really quick.. so uh u guys can think whatever u want.. also forgot 2 mention ALOT of ground sirloin burgers (try 2 get the leaner kind) and some ham/turkey and cheese sandwiches with cottage cheese. Burgers, eggs, chipolte, subway, quiznos, grilled chicken, ham n turkey sandwiches make up the BULK of my DIET. some of u r idiots who take somethin small that i say and carry on with it throughout the whole thread - u know who u r and thanks again 4 that.

I dont want to bulk - i want to cut and add some lean muscle with the cycle. and dont tell me that that specific goal isnt possible bc i know that it is from my "low dose" cycle of test. and your right bobo it was the perfect name 4 the thread. o yea and the hot pocket video was classic. i laughed for minutes so thanks 4 that 2!

thanks for all the advice. I REALLY DO appreciate it regardless of what some of you will say or think.

i am scheduled 2 have some bloodwork done this week and my mind is already made up that im doing the juice so some good advice on that would be great.
possible stacks considering are:
primo depot 4-500mg + test (low dose-250-350mg)
eq 600mg + test low dose
deca 400 + test low dose (i know, i know its not good 4 cut but can b a good muscle building stack in general!)
masteron + test
so let me know about any advice on dosages/times for these possible cycles.

THANKS AGAIN 2 EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!

[BGIZZLE8629]

yea i have researched a lot as a matter of fact and im sure that i polly know at least as much as you do. looks like your 1yr of bein a member is comin up congrats.

anyway didnt do pct after first cycle, did after second, and a little bit after sd

[BGIZZLE8629]

OK SWEET. looks like ill just go with deca @400mg/wk + test e. @300mg/wk for 12 weeks. thanks again

[BGIZZLE8629]

awesome

[legobricks]

HAHAHA! LMAO! this is hilarious... but yea the pizza is 4 when i dont have groceries (that means that its not on a regular basis i.e. its not an every day thing..k?) and the lean pockets are in case im n a hurry and just need 2 make something really quick.. so uh u guys can think whatever u want.. also forgot 2 mention ALOT of ground sirloin burgers (try 2 get the leaner kind) and some ham/turkey and cheese sandwiches with cottage cheese. Burgers, eggs, chipolte, subway, quiznos, grilled chicken, ham n turkey sandwiches make up the BULK of my DIET. some of u r idiots who take somethin small that i say and carry on with it throughout the whole thread - u know who u r and thanks again 4 that.
I dont want to bulk - i want to cut and add some lean muscle with the cycle. and dont tell me that that specific goal isnt possible bc i know that it is from my "low dose" cycle of test. and your right bobo it was the perfect name 4 the thread. o yea and the hot pocket video was classic. i laughed for minutes so thanks 4 that 2!

thanks for all the advice. I REALLY DO appreciate it regardless of what some of you will say or think.

i am scheduled 2 have some bloodwork done this week and my mind is already made up that im doing the juice so some good advice on that would be great.
possible stacks considering are:
primo depot 4-500mg + test (low dose-250-350mg)
eq 600mg + test low dose
deca 400 + test low dose (i know, i know its not good 4 cut but can b a good muscle building stack in general!)
masteron + test
so let me know about any advice on dosages/times for these possible cycles.

THANKS AGAIN 2 EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!

So your trying to cut and add lean lbs....

bascially your lean bulking hoping to burn some fat at the same time.


Now back to your smart ass comment about how we don't know what we are talking about..


Once again your diet sucks. You want to cut on that???? You have got to be shitting me. Go to the diet forum and search the sticky threads for lean bulking and cutting (you can put them together and do what you want with them) but it will give you foods to eat for cutting, how to eat, etc......

Your expecting too much with the food you just gave us.

[T_Own]

quizno's = healthy?? even eating that stuff a couple times a week is no good. hot pockets lol. if you're in a hurry just eat a power bar or SOMETHING a little better than a hot pocket or pizza..

[Toenail Juice Z]

'2) WHAT SHOULD I TAKE WITH EQ TO KEEP MY LIBIDO UP'

The answer is proviron . (if you want to avoid test completely)

[SuperLift]

this cycle is gonna be funny..

[godkilla]

who the fvck takes 3 cycles and still eat like you do. i eat better during a weekend of partying. your knowledge of aas and proper diet is pretty pathetic for someone who has alrdy done 3 cycles. forget the drugs and learn how to bodybuild properly b4 you ever touch then again. i am done with this. NEXT!

[BGIZZLE8629]

wow ok. quiznos i get a small or reg sub on wheat with xtra chicken, pepper jack cheese, jalepenos, lettuce, tomato, and no sauce how can that sub b that horrible i mean cmon now. the lean pockets are 1-3 times/wk when im in a hurry and i eat pizza maybe 1 or 2 times/wk. yea i should probably just eat a protein bar 4 when im in a hurry so thats my f*ck up but u guys r trashing me when i really think i deserve it... u guys asked me what my diet was and i figured i would include EVERYTHING that i possibly eat n a week and what do i get 4 it?-no advice on my cycle and just a bunch of negative remarks. 4got 2 mention earlier in the thread- i lift and run 4-5days/wk. done various wos/reps-sets schemes/splits. right now doing
mon-chest+shoulders
tues-bis+tris+abs
wed-off
thurs-legs
friday-back+abs
sat-off
sun-start over

who does 3 cycles and eats like me? I DO! and i dont even count 2 of the cycles bc the 1st one i was too young and stupid, the second one was decent, and the 3rd was SD and i got sick and had 2 stop so WTF?? name sounds like blasphemy btw just figured id let u know.. thanks 4 your input. really educational


ANYBODY WANA GIVE ME SOME CYCLE ADVICE????????
THAT'D BE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!!!!!!!
Im not gona b eating pizza and hot pockets during cycle unless on a cheat day (kinda like how im doing it now people)
Cycle advice would be great!!
just gona go with test+deca
can somebody let me know about dosages 4 that????????
thinkin about test e.-300mg/wk and deca 400-600mg/wk for 10-12wks....??????

[Dog-Slime]

Heres some cycle advice. Don't run a cycle until you know how to eat properly. You say you eat pizza and lean pockets a few days a week... Thats not how often you eat cheat meals. Also you say I eat so many grams of protein why am I not gaining? You should be more worried about total calorie intake than total protein intake when going for mass (especially when most of that protein is from shakes).

Also, you claim to have done a lot of research. You also say you dont wanna run test unless your ready to go bald. Then on your list of possible cycles you include masteron . Definitely don't think you have done too much research buddy. How long someone has been a member of this site has absolutely nothing to do with how much knowledge they may or may not possess.

[T_Own]

doses look fine. run the test longer. start pct 2 weeks after test is done.

EAT BETTER. quizno's is terrible regardless of what you get. read the nutritional info of a lean pocket and tell me if there is any value to it. 4g protein maybe? like 15g fat? awesome.

so 1-3 lean pockets, 1-2 pizza, a few quizno's = 8-10 bad meals a week. thats enough to throw off the rest of a good diet on its own. you really gotta look into it, stop making excuses and realize we don't tell you this just cause we love typing it

[Toenail Juice Z]

What are quizno's?

[BGIZZLE8629]

doses look fine. run the test longer. start pct 2 weeks after test is done.

EAT BETTER. quizno's is terrible regardless of what you get. read the nutritional info of a lean pocket and tell me if there is any value to it. 4g protein maybe? like 15g fat? awesome.

so 1-3 lean pockets, 1-2 pizza, a few quizno's = 8-10 bad meals a week. thats enough to throw off the rest of a good diet on its own. you really gotta look into it, stop making excuses and realize we don't tell you this just cause we love typing it

thanks! so you think i should just go with about 500mg/wk of deca ? o yea and the lean pockets have roughly 24-30g of protein, 14-20g of fat, and 50-70g of carbs/2 pockets-yea its pretty aweful but i only eat them 1 or 2 times/wk whenever im in a rush and want like a full meal but im working on cutting them and the pizza out all together.. sometimes 4 lunch its either quiznos, chipotle, or subway but your right i need 2 just cut the sh*t out. thanks again.

Heres some cycle advice. Don't run a cycle until you know how to eat properly. You say you eat pizza and lean pockets a few days a week... Thats not how often you eat cheat meals. Also you say I eat so many grams of protein why am I not gaining? You should be more worried about total calorie intake than total protein intake when going for mass (especially when most of that protein is from shakes).

Also, you claim to have done a lot of research. You also say you dont wanna run test unless your ready to go bald. Then on your list of possible cycles you include masteron. Definitely don't think you have done too much research buddy. How long someone has been a member of this site has absolutely nothing to do with how much knowledge they may or may not possess.

appreciated

What are quizno's?

a place 2 get subs

[BGIZZLE8629]

should i get anavar 4 pct also or not?

[T_Own]

no..

[Gears]

I`ve heard you need 200+mg of test a week just to make up for what you would naturally produce. So if EQ is actually supressive, and not as powerful as most anabolics (half as androgenic as test), why would you even do it. Am I off by saying that you will probably make about the same gains without doing this, and not feel like shit?

[Gears]

aand I missed most of the thread where he was going to run test, grats me.

[BGIZZLE8629]

ok. i guess im just gonna go with
test e - 250mg/wk
deca - 500mg/wk for 12 weeks and do clomid + nolva for PCT for 4-6wks two weeks after last test inj.

run the test longer? how much longer should the test be run after ive stopped the deca??

[Gears]

ok. i guess im just gonna go with
test e - 250mg/wk
deca - 500mg/wk for 12 weeks and do clomid + nolva for PCT for 4-6wks two weeks after last test inj.

run the test longer? how much longer should the test be run after ive stopped the deca??

The sticky recommends 2 weeks past the last week of Deca.

[rock75]

I love how when someone asks a question everyone treats them like morons.

What i would suggest doing is a cycle to cut first.

you are right to a certain degree, but when you ask for advise and people with the experience chime in and he basically tells them they are full of sh!t cause they didn't tell him what he wanted hear is when people start treating him like a moron. so if you or anyone do not want to hear other people's opinions do not ask for them, walk over to your mirror and ask yourself your fvckin questions and then give yourself the answer you want to fvckin hear, short of that he is a fvckin moron and so are you based on your second answer; Steroids alone will not do sh!t, as his posts should be evidence. A cutting cycle is to keep you in an anabolic state so while you are cutting you spare as much muscle as possible; diet and cardio are the biggest part to cutting, not steroids.

nobody ever said anything about bulking... and i only suggested that eq time/dosage bc thats all that i have right now. also, im not going 2 ever be taking test @ or around 500mg again until im ready 2 have no hair.. thats y im trying to go with something like deca or eq with maybe A LITTLE bit of test like around 2-300mg (if i absolutely have to)

STILL NOBODY HAS ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT I HAVENT MADE A SINGLE GAIN IN 6 MONTHS WITH EATING 2-300G OF PROTEIN/DAY... SH*TTY DIET OR NOT I STILL SHOULD HAVE PROGRESSED WITH SOMETHING SO ANY COMMENTS ON THAT (ITS BC OF THE PREVIOUS CYCLES CORRECT? OR R PEOPLE IN DENIAL ABOUT THE ABILITY 2 BUILD MUSCLE NATURALLY AFTER CYCLING)?????

ALSO, WHAT WOULD I BE ABLE 2 TAKE WITH AN EQ OR DECA CYCLE TO KEEP MY LIBIDO UP?????????????????????????????

wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong and just for the fvck of it WRONG!!!

your diet is sh!t and your training is probably sh!t and your rest periods are probably sh!t = sh!t

yes you can, someone with a good clean diet can - so don't say you can't; plenty of people I know have and are currently off and able to build muscle and guess what; their diets are 10,000x better than yours.

caber is used to combat progesterone build up which will affect your libido

[Toenail Juice Z]

thanks! so you think i should just go with about 500mg/wk of deca ? o yea and the lean pockets have roughly 24-30g of protein, 14-20g of fat, and 50-70g of carbs/2 pockets-yea its pretty aweful but i only eat them 1 or 2 times/wk whenever im in a rush and want like a full meal but im working on cutting them and the pizza out all together.. sometimes 4 lunch its either quiznos, chipotle, or subway but your right i need 2 just cut the sh*t out. thanks again.



appreciated


a place 2 get subs

Thanks.. I guess its probably something like subway

[BGIZZLE8629]

would taking 15mg of dianabol ed for the first four weeks of my cycle be worth it or maybe a cpl hundred mg of prop. ed or eod 4 the first few weeks???????

[Sehr]

This sounds 100% to me like your not working out properly. Start trianing the 3 power lifts, 5-8reps, 8sets each. You need to be using heavy weight, if you hit fail get another rep out, then start doing as much ROM as you can, then get a training partner to help you crank out more reps. If you arent sore the next day you arent working hard enough. If you have energy enough to continue aftter 45m you are not working hard enough. If this doesnt work try including some isolation exercises aswell, and TRAIN HARD!! TO gain muscle you need to push the body into unknown territory, shock the sytem. You will grow like a weed.
Lift

Oh and get a shitload of sleep....

[sweeney todd]

dont know a thing about diet.

dont know a thing about aas.

you wonder why you dont gain muscle. drugs arent the answer. you have no idea what you are doing. maybe find a different hobby.

[BGIZZLE8629]

This sounds 100% to me like your not working out properly. Start trianing the 3 power lifts, 5-8reps, 8sets each. You need to be using heavy weight, if you hit fail get another rep out, then start doing as much ROM as you can, then get a training partner to help you crank out more reps. If you arent sore the next day you arent working hard enough. If you have energy enough to continue aftter 45m you are not working hard enough. If this doesnt work try including some isolation exercises aswell, and TRAIN HARD!! TO gain muscle you need to push the body into unknown territory, shock the sytem. You will grow like a weed.
Lift

Oh and get a shitload of sleep....

ok is rom Range Of Motion?. i keep my workouts under an hour and i am exhausted when i get done. im also sore every time the day after so i have 2 b doing something right, right? i warm up with lighter weights and do roughly 3-5 sets for every exercise i do with a rep range of 6-12 i do perform the big 3 lifts also. i go heavy on my incline but not flat. i also go kinda heavy on the leg press (left knee problem from squat). i was crashed into like a year ago and it kinda messed up my back (had to go to chiropractor and everything) so i dont really wana go heavy on deads yet. thanks for trying to help me out though.... i definitely DO need to get more sleep.

dont know a thing about diet.

dont know a thing about aas.

you wonder why you dont gain muscle. drugs arent the answer. you have no idea what you are doing. maybe find a different hobby.

ha. talk about a hobby. this is just a bullsh*t pointless post. go suck 1 buddy.. im sure thats your hobby anyway.

BG

[sweeney todd]

ha. talk about a hobby. this is just a bullsh*t pointless post. go suck 1 buddy.. im sure thats your hobby anyway.

BG

youre clueless. you dont grow because youre clueless. dont be angry at people who can grow with or without aas. go and suck one, dude, im not your father. hes at the bus station in the bathroom making some money for you and mom, you know the spot.

[BGIZZLE8629]

youre clueless. you dont grow because youre clueless. dont be angry at people who can grow with or without aas. go and suck one, dude, im not your father. hes at the bus station in the bathroom making some money for you and mom, you know the spot.

lmao. not angry @ anybody but bet id beat the f*ck outa u n public 4 talkin sh*t p*ssy. clueless/genious/juiced/natty your still a punk. i ride n the dyt if u ever get froggish boi. watch that mouth a yours @ the bar.

[sweeney todd]

lmao. not angry @ anybody but bet id beat the f*ck outa u n public 4 talkin sh*t p*ssy. clueless/genious/juiced/natty your still a punk. i ride n the dyt if u ever get froggish boi. watch that mouth a yours @ the bar.

uh oh, internet tough guy. im 6 inches shorter, 5 pounds heavier, with abs showing. stay far away from aas. people might laugh at you if you tell them youre a juicer with those stats.

you ride and dyt? is that ride and diet? with 17%bf, i doubt you diet. froggish? thats from like 1998. focus on improving your light weight physique. threatening a computer screen is laughable, like your stats.