clen + otc fat burners?

**Mbuffguy** · 07-02-2008, 06:18 PM

do u use them at the same time like pre contest or no?

**NATE0406** · 07-02-2008, 06:20 PM

you can if you want.

**Mbuffguy** · 07-02-2008, 06:34 PM

really i didn't know if u could take caffein with clen . but now that i think of it im sure fitness modles and pro BB do thanks nate

**NATE0406** · 07-02-2008, 06:36 PM

you do want to watch your caffein intake. but i know ppl who run eca and clen together (not reconmended). but i dont think it will really hurt.

**Mbuffguy** · 07-02-2008, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by NATE0406

you do want to watch your caffein intake. but i know ppl who run eca and clen together (not reconmended). but i dont think it will really hurt.

i have ephedra too but i dont wanna over do it

**MercyDog** · 07-02-2008, 08:44 PM

you won't. btw ephedrine is much better

**Mbuffguy** · 07-03-2008, 12:58 AM

ephedra better than clen ?

**AdamGH** · 07-03-2008, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by MercyDog

you won't. btw ephedrine is much better

You should read this:

http://www.steroid.com/Clenbuterol.php

**Mbuffguy** · 07-03-2008, 05:11 PM

i have and i know bout clen i was asking bout otc fatburers

**JiGGaMaN** · 07-03-2008, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by MercyDog

you won't. btw ephedrine is much better

Ephedrine has been off the markets in the U.S. for ages, and its been off the market here in canada for at least a year now. Even pseudoephedrine (sudafed) is behind the counter now. Reason for that is

Methamphetamine = Desoxyephedrine
Red phosphorus + Iodine + Ephedrine = Desoxyephedrine

Now you know!

**Mbuffguy** · 07-03-2008, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

Ephedrine has been off the markets in the U.S. for ages, and its been off the market here in canada for at least a year now. Even pseudoephedrine (sudafed) is behind the counter now. Reason for that is

Methamphetamine = Desoxyephedrine
Red phosphorus + Iodine + Ephedrine = Desoxyephedrine

Now you know!

my work sells vasapro ephedrine my mega pro i get boxes for free

**bodybuilder1107** · 07-03-2008, 09:16 PM

yeah ephedra was banned in us for awhile now

**Gears** · 07-03-2008, 10:14 PM

Actually, no. Ephedrine is sold behind any pharmacy counter, its just now regulated for sale amounts.

**bodybuilder1107** · 07-03-2008, 10:17 PM

just googled it and got articles on it being banned i thought it was but who knows

**Gears** · 07-03-2008, 10:30 PM

It was taken off market shelves for awhile. The FDA couldn`t prove any related deaths to it so now they regulate it as vasopro and bronkaid behind most pharmacy counters (you just need an ID). It can still be used to make meth so they cant sell a ton of it at one time.

**bodybuilder1107** · 07-03-2008, 10:39 PM

didnt know that i stay away from it anyway i had the hydroxycut with ephedra and i was like a crackwhore lol it was crazy, shaking and chest pains and stuff, rediculous

**burnin69** · 07-03-2008, 10:50 PM

clen and ephedra are both beta-2 antagonist but the half life of clen is around 34hrs I believe and ephedra is 4hrs. Ive had much better results with the clen and il take some caffeine here and there.

**cfiler** · 07-03-2008, 11:42 PM

Like said above, clen and ephedra use the same beta receptors. You don't want to run them at the same time. Pretty much the only otc fat burners are green tea.

You should read the clen profile in the steroid profiles section, and the ECA profile in the suppliments section.