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    Question Nandrolone PhenylPropionate and Sustanon Dosage

    I am going to use Nandrolone PhenylPropionate (NPP) Durabolin with Sustanon what dosage of durabolin should I run and what is a safe period of time to run it.

    What mg/lb dosage should I use?

    I was thinking about injecting every 3 days 1mg/lb of body weight.


    The same question goes for Sustanon I have a pretty dense blend that contains 325mgs of Test?

    I was thinking about injecting once a week 3mgs/lb ?


    I was planning on running the Durabolin for 6-7 weeks and the Sustanon for 6-8 weeks simultaneously?

    Does this sound right?
    This will be my second cycle and I am going for mass gains. I hope to gain and keep at least 10lbs of muscle,

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    deca and sustanon need to be run longer than 6-8 weeks to get the real effects.

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    How many weeks would you suggest? My main concern is that I do not want my nuts to shrink to the size of bb's. I am not running deca , Its durabolin npp it is suppose to be run for a much shorter period because it is a fast acting esther. Last cycle I had slight shrinkage in week 8 with the stuff.

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    first off not every bb's nuts are tiny. i run hcg with every cycle and never notice any shrinking. 2nd the npp can be run eod at a dose of between 75-125mgs per injection and can be run for 6 weeks ut the sust needs to be run longer. a sust cycle should be no shorter then 10 weeks because of the longer esters. if i were you i would look into npp and prop
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    Thanks, how long should I run sustanon for then?

    Would throwing in some anavar at about 40mgs a day be helpful after I drop the durabolin out of the mix.

    Updated Cycle Plan:

    Week 1-6
    Durabolin NPP 250mgs e3d
    Sustanon 325mgs/week

    Week 7-10
    Sustanon 325mgs/week
    40mgs Anavar ed

    Thanks

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    how about this:
    1-12 NPP + Sust EOD
    13-16 anavar 40mg/day

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN View Post
    how about this:
    1-12 NPP + Sust EOD
    13-16 anavar 40mg/day
    this sounds a little better. you have to run the sust for at least 10 weeks and the npp can be run whatever you want
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    im running npp and prop right now at 100mgs ed for both.

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    Updated Cycle Plans

    Sustanon 400mgs/wk Week 1-10
    Durabolin NPP 300mgs/wk Week 1-7
    Anavar 40mgs/ed Week 9-13
    HCG 400ius/wk Week 3-13
    Arimidex ?mg/day Week ?-?

    What dosage of Arimidex should I use to prevent sides, gyno, acne, bloat?
    What week should I start taking Arimidex in?
    Do I need to take more because of the hcg ?
    Can I take Liquidex instead its much cheaper?

    Thank You,
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    still a little short on the npp but better with sust. maybe even a couple more (12 ish).
    did you settle on how often for the injections

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    still a little short on the npp but better with sust. maybe even a couple more (12 ish).
    did you settle on how often for the injections

    I may draw out the sust for 13 weeks if the sides are relatively tolerable/
    Injections:
    Durabolin NPP: e3d
    Sustanon : eod (want to keep the test levels as stable as possible to avoid sides)
    HCG : twice a week

    Does this look like a decent 2nd cycle now?

    Thanks

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    looks fine. the sides shouldn't be that bad.. same as test lol

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    What would you recommend for pct?

    I was planning using Nolvadex but I don't know if this alone can get the job done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    What would you recommend for pct?

    I was planning using Nolvadex but I don't know if this alone can get the job done?
    nolvadex , aromasin and hcg if you like it.

    definitely nolva and aromasin for 6 weeks.

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    What dosage of aromasin and how long should I run it?

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    Would 15mgs a day of aromasin for 5 Weeks work,
    With 15mgs a day of nolvadex for 6 weeks work

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    Would 15mgs a day of aromasin for 5 Weeks work,
    With 15mgs a day of nolvadex for 6 weeks work
    20mgs ed of nolva and 15-20 of aromasin.

    if your joints start getting achy, lower the aromasin dosage. 4 weeks of aromasin should be enough.

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    If I run hcg from week 3 until pct should I use hcg in pct as well?

    I'm guessing no?

    What are your feeling about using hcg while on gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    If I run hcg from week 3 until pct should I use hcg in pct as well?

    I'm guessing no?

    What are your feeling about using hcg while on gear?
    theres 2 methods lots of bros tend to use.

    1 is using hcg intermittently through your cycle at say 500iu a week to keep your testicles nice and full and aid in recovery for pct or

    2 use in pct to help recovery.

    keep in mind that hcg is suppressive in itself so dont get the idea that its a good thing to use in excess.

    overuse can cause permenant shutdown due to desensitization of lh.

    you could run it for say the last 2-3 weeks of your cycle and then do pct or you can save it for pct only.

    or you can opt to not use it at all

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    Is HCG 400ius/wk Week 3-13 idea if I dont plan on using hcg in pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    Is HCG 400ius/wk Week 3-13 idea if I dont plan on using hcg in pct?
    yeah it'll work fine. personally i wouldnt bother using hcg unless you find you have a lot of testicular atrophy or you've discovered through prior cycles that pct is difficult for you

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    My nuts shrunk up in my 8th week of npp durabolin last cycle, recovered quickly with nolvadex but I wasn't a fan of the situation nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    My nuts shrunk up in my 8th week of npp durabolin last cycle, recovered quickly with nolvadex but I wasn't a fan of the situation nonetheless.
    im on npp/prop right now and have noticed no atrophy yet. im 47 days in.

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    What type of gains can I expect from this stack?

    10-20lbs?

    And what percentage of added muscle can I expect to keep, lets say 7 weeks after I'm off gear?

    Thanks Again For Everyone's Help I Dunno What I'd Do Without The Posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    What type of gains can I expect from this stack?

    10-20lbs?

    And what percentage of added muscle can I expect to keep, lets say 7 weeks after I'm off gear?

    Thanks Again For Everyone's Help I Dunno What I'd Do Without The Posts
    well you've run npp before, how did it treat you then?

    im up 12 pounds so far in my cycle, i am bulking though so im eating like a tank with minimal cardio.

    weight gain/loss is diet/goal dependant.

    if your pct is up to par, you should keep almost all of your gains.
    that being said, you should expect some solid gains from npp.

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    how long do you plan to run your npp for?
    What else is in your stack?

    I gained about 10lbs of muscle last time but I could have done a much better pct and my diet was off in the last 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RexKwonDo View Post
    Updated Cycle Plans

    Sustanon 400mgs/wk Week 1-10
    Durabolin NPP 300mgs/wk Week 1-7
    Anavar 40mgs/ed Week 9-13
    HCG 400ius/wk Week 3-13
    Arimidex ?mg/day Week ?-? start at .25mgs ed and raise if needed

    What dosage of Arimidex should I use to prevent sides, gyno, acne, bloat?
    .25mgs
    What week should I start taking Arimidex in? 10 days after last injection
    Do I need to take more because of the hcg ? no you dont but spread the hcg out throughout the week, the lower the better
    Can I take Liquidex instead its much cheaper? yes you can
    Thank You,
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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    good luck bro

    Are you recommending taking arimidex .25mgs as an ancillary in pct, you mentioned start taking it 10 days after your last injection?

    I was planning on taking .25mgs ed throughout the cycle to keep estrogen sides low.

    Did you mean 10 days after my first injection?

    For PCT I figured I would use nolvadex and aromasin ?

    And what dosage of hcg should I use if I am injecting once a week? instead of 250ius 2xs a week should u do 500iu 1x a week on cycle?

    Thanks

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