New seeking advice

**Miller777** · 07-06-2008, 09:35 AM

Hi how u doing I have tryed a couple of oral steroids (d-bol anadrol ) I am now on my 3rd week of decal 500mg wk was wondering if it was advisable to take testosterone as well if so is it mixed or 2 separate jabs I am 200lbs struggling to gain more would appreciate advise
best regards Miller

**Big** · 07-06-2008, 09:41 AM

It is never advisble to use deca alone, we would need your complete stats to advise further.

**AnimalGear** · 07-06-2008, 09:42 AM

Yes you need to be taking a testosterone with that Deca ...it will/has shut your natty test production 100% by now

I would recommend test E 500mg/wk

what are your full stats?

**Miller777** · 07-06-2008, 09:50 AM

sorry to sound like a fool by stats do u mean body mass and sizes of chest arms ect

**AnimalGear** · 07-06-2008, 09:51 AM

age
weight
height
bf%
lifting experience
cycle "
pct?

**Miller777** · 07-06-2008, 10:02 AM

age 27
weight 200lbs
height 6ft
bf% not sure got a good bulk of muscle and abit fat
cycle tryed some oral on 3rd wk decabol 500mg pwk
pct sorry not sure what you mean

**AnimalGear** · 07-06-2008, 10:13 AM

My good sir, you have lots of research to do before you touch ANYTHING

You should read all the stickies in each of the forums

I'm not sure if I should advice you to stop now and do PCT (you don't know what that is yet), or to add test..

If Big is still around, he'll have some good advice for you on this

gl bro

PT · 07-06-2008, 10:19 AM

when your on steroids your body stops producing its natural test and therfor you do a pct after your cycle to start it back up again so you dont lose muscle along with many other side effects. there are people that can run deca alone without any problems but im highly against it. if you can get some test i would throw it in there asap, perferably prop since its faster acting

**Big** · 07-06-2008, 10:21 AM

PCT is "post cycle therapy ", it is what you do to restore your natural levels that are suppressed on cycle. it is VERY important. You need to start here, read all the posts at the top, then read them again:
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77

**marcus300** · 07-06-2008, 10:22 AM

How long have you been training??

**Miller777** · 07-06-2008, 10:28 AM

sorry understand what you mean now I have clomid for end of cycle and using tamoxifen am from Scotland by the way been training hard nearly 4 yrs very strong but would like more size

PT · 07-06-2008, 10:35 AM

i perfer the tamoxifen over clomid for pct and if you do add test you can mix it in the syring with the deca

**jc95605** · 07-06-2008, 10:40 AM

Did you just become a mod pietro?, sry i just noticed that. Miller since your already on cycle, add the test now! I would do at least 500mgs ew, perferably a shorter ester like prop.

**Miller777** · 07-06-2008, 10:51 AM

Cheers for all the advise will get ma hands on wot a need asap this site is gold by the way. Sorry 1 more thing am using the deltoid the now is there any better sites for injecting or does it not realy matter.Thanks for everything will let u no how a get on cheers everybody.
Best regards Miller

**Miller777** · 07-06-2008, 11:29 AM

ave had good look round site now feel more the fool a received previous bad advice until a joined here hopfully a can correct it

PT · 07-06-2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by jc95605

Did you just become a mod pietro?, sry i just noticed that. Miller since your already on cycle, add the test now! I would do at least 500mgs ew, perferably a shorter ester like prop.

yes i did