help with my first cycle.....

[dwing]

Hey guys...i am new to this, I am planning on starting my first cycle, im 21 years old, 5'10, 195 @ approx 15% body fat, iv got sus 250 and test prop....

i was thinking about 500mg of sus a week for about 8 weeks but i dont know what i should do with the prop, i was thinking 100mg per week eod for 3-4 weeks

i just dont know when i should take the prop........

i want to put on size and strength because i am a very hard gainer

any help right now would be great ,,thanks

[JiGGaMaN]

Riddle me this: How many ml's of each and how many mg/ml?

[dwing]

the sus is 500mg/per week every mon /thurs
the prop im still unsure.....my buddy told me 100mg/week for 3-4 weeks eod

[one8nine]

sust is shot every other day at bare minimum, same for prop.
never listen to that buddy again, he is embarrassingly clueless and in no position to give advice. naturally you produce 70-100mg of test a week

you still didn't tell us how much of each thing you have

[dwing]

really, wow thanks a lot....
im not sure what to call the bottle...but they are approx. half full......

[inky-e]

Oh boy, I'm outta here before it starts!

[dwing]

well can you guys help me out....because im not taking any of this stuff till i know whats goin on....not spending the $$$ for nothing

[JiGGaMaN]

Well how are you supposed to plan a cycle if you dont know how much you have?

[dwing]

bottles say 20 ml for sus and 10 ml for prop.....

[N*E*R*D]

bottles say 20 ml for sus and 10 ml for prop.....

Dosed at what?

[dwing]

the doses i will be taking?

[N*E*R*D]

the doses i will be taking?

No, what is you medication dosed at?

[N*E*R*D]

per mgs.

[dwing]

you mean like 500mgs per week......if not i dont know where to find it....

[N*E*R*D]

is it not on your bottle?

[dwing]

the bottles say whats in them like 30mg test prop , 100mg test decanoate....etc?

[kynetguy]

the bottles say whats in them like 30mg test prop , 100mg test decanoate....etc?

Package it up and send it to me via UPS. You are going to hurt yourself. . . .

[N*E*R*D]

Package it up and send it to me via UPS. You are going to hurt yourself. . . .

We were all newbs at some stage, i remember i used to be like wtf, mgs, mls.
but i did get laughed at so go ahead. j/k j/k

[dwing]

bottles say 20 ml for sus and 10 ml for prop.....

Package it up and send it to me via UPS. You are going to hurt yourself. . . .

why do you say that?

[N*E*R*D]

Well yep you got it , it shouldve of been 250 sus , 100 prop any way, i was just asking to make sure i answer your question correctly,
you have;
5000mg sus
1000mg prop

Thats enough for the cycle you proposed

[dwing]

if you guys are making fun of me, i dont care....trying to learn...lol

[kynetguy]

if you guys are making fun of me, i dont care....trying to learn...lol

Only because we all were there at one time or another.

I would just do the Sust. I would leave the prop out this go around. Prop needs to be shot EoD AT MINIMUM, preferably ED.

A first cycle of just Sust, proper diet, training and proper rest, will yeild you noticeable results that you will be able to keep most of.

The Sust you should shoot EoD. I would shoot 1/2 CC (1/5 mL) eod. That is going to net you out at 450mg per week. Definately enough to see and feel. It will take it about 5 weeks to really kick in and feel. Over 8 weeks you will use approximately 14mL of sust.

[dwing]

haha ok,...

the "guy" i got it from told me to take 1ml mon/thurs...so instead take half a ml everyday?

[kynetguy]

haha ok,...

the "guy" i got it from told me to take 1ml mon/thurs...so instead take half a ml everyday?

BEcause the guy you got it from is an idiot?

If you take it Every Other Day (EoD) your blood levels of hormone will be more stable and even from day to day. Which will translate into less side effects.

[N*E*R*D]

no eod

[kynetguy]

You need to read up on SERMS and AIs and PCT before you go poking yourself too. . .

[dwing]

awesome guys, thanks a lot....

should i just get rid of the prop then?

could i use d bols or just stick with the sus

[kynetguy]

awesome guys, thanks a lot....

should i just get rid of the prop then?

could i use d bols or just stick with the sus

For a first cycle, you should stick with just the test. See how your body is going to react from it. Get a little expirience with some gear before getting complicated. Your liver and your muscles (needle sticks) will appreciate easing into it.

And make SURE you eat clean and increase your clean caloric intake and results will come.

Save the prop. It isn't going to go bad anytime soon.

[dwing]

ok i figured that...just thought i would check.....

what do you mean by clean?

[N*E*R*D]

ok i figured that...just thought i would check.....

what do you mean by clean?

Go to the diet section

[kynetguy]

ok i figured that...just thought i would check.....

what do you mean by clean?

Always wash you food and hands. . .

Go check the diet section. Basically no crap food, fast food, greasy stuff, read you will see.

[dwing]

cool thanks a lot guys,,,really appreciated....