A trainer at my gym who is about 260 pounds, 5'10, 8%bf absolutely huge, i was talking to him about gear, and he said you dont need pct unless you have gyno and its overrated, and in the days of Arnold, etc none of em used PCT and they are all fine now. He says the difference in time it makes in raising your HPTA levels is negligible and not worth the price of purchase of PCT.

how the hell does someone get so big if they're that stupid? Infact all the juicers over here have no idea what PCT even stands for.