My cycle opinions

**Bronco Billy** · 08-11-2008, 04:10 PM

Hey guys. I am going to start what will be my 3rd cycle. Just wondering what u guys think? I will be taking the following.

weeks
1-4 anadrol (40mg ed)
1-13 test e (500 pw) split mon and thur
1-12 eq (500 pw) split mon and thur

20mg nolva every 3 days.

plan to start pct 2 weeks after last inject
pct week 1-2 40mg nolva- 100 mg clomid (ed)
week 3-4 20mg nolva-50mg clomid (ed)

I will be taking in about 4k-4500 calories per day, about 500gm protien.
I weigh 185 5-10, im pretty solid, i have been lifting about 5 years.
Any suggestions or tweaks, i'm all ears. (note: i wanted dbol as my kick start due to the high sides of anadrol but could not find an intern site that i felt was legit, i've read alot of boards and researched with many sayn scammers. If u have found one that u know are legit with high quality gear, i will fix that, just pm me.) thanks in advance.

**peump** · 08-11-2008, 05:03 PM

maybe frontload the test.
maybe use 10mg nolva ed. then bump up for pct
maybe consider letro. and/or arimidex
also consider hcg at mid point and end of cycle.
just a couple thoughts

**Bronco Billy** · 08-12-2008, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by peump

maybe frontload the test.
maybe use 10mg nolva ed. then bump up for pct
maybe consider letro. and/or arimidex
also consider hcg at mid point and end of cycle.
just a couple thoughts

Thank u for the reply. I thought about the front load but didn't know if it was necessary since the anadrol was being used as a kick start. I also thought about hcg as a bridge but like the dbol I haven't been able to get ahold of it.
I honestly thought about not using nolva until pct unless i started to feel the gyno coming on. Thats my only concern really, I expect some sides and except it comes with the territory. I experienced almost no sides with my last two cycles but I understand the drol is high risk with sides which is why I chose every 3 days. I just want the most out of my cycle and don't want to hinder that. In short, I guess my ? is, if this was ur gear, how would u go about it. I will prolly take ur advice cause i'm willing to bet u have more experience than me. Thanks.

**DS21** · 08-12-2008, 07:02 PM

Why not run the eq untill wk 15? If it was me I would also use arimidex during and only if needed and save nolva for pct with an ai and if you can get it hcg .

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bronco Billy

Hey guys. I am going to start what will be my 3rd cycle. Just wondering what u guys think? I will be taking the following.

weeks
1-4 anadrol (40mg ed)
1-13 test e (500 pw) split mon and thur
1-12 eq (500 pw) split mon and thur

good

Originally Posted by Bronco Billy

20mg nolva every 3 days.

wtf? why every third day just wondering?
nolva should never be used on cycle, especially with drol

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

Originally Posted by Bronco Billy

plan to start pct 2 weeks after last inject
pct week 1-2 40mg nolva- 100 mg clomid (ed)
week 3-4 20mg nolva-50mg clomid (ed)

this pct is not so great
my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/354573-one8nines-opinion-pct-links-side-effect-control-too.html#post4111013

you can't post that question about dbol

read the rules
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145582

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by peump

maybe frontload the test.
maybe use 10mg nolva ed. then bump up for pct
maybe consider letro. and/or arimidex
also consider hcg at mid point and end of cycle.
just a couple thoughts

nolva on cycle greatly slows muscle groth

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bronco Billy

Thank u for the reply. I thought about the front load but didn't know if it was necessary since the anadrol was being used as a kick start. I also thought about hcg as a bridge but like the dbol I haven't been able to get ahold of it.
I honestly thought about not using nolva until pct unless i started to feel the gyno coming on. Thats my only concern really, I expect some sides and except it comes with the territory. I experienced almost no sides with my last two cycles but I understand the drol is high risk with sides which is why I chose every 3 days. I just want the most out of my cycle and don't want to hinder that. In short, I guess my ? is, if this was ur gear, how would u go about it. I will prolly take ur advice cause i'm willing to bet u have more experience than me. Thanks.

dont frontload AND kickstart imo. just pick one.

**Bronco Billy** · 08-12-2008, 08:10 PM

Thanks 4 the help guys, one8nine ur input is greatly appreciated.
So this is what i will do

1-4 anadrol (40mg ed)
1-13 test e (500 pw) split mon and thur
1-12 eq (500 pw) split mon and thur

not use nolva during cycle, only if gyno starts.
As for pct i will use novla starting 2 weeks after last injection
week 1-2 40mg nolva
week 3-4 20mg nolva
My ? is what should I add to combat pct if anything. I've have seen many threads that say never use proviron for pct, just on cycle. Hcg maybe? and at what dosage? other than that, look good?

**one8nine** · 08-12-2008, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bronco Billy

Thanks 4 the help guys, one8nine ur input is greatly appreciated.
So this is what i will do

1-4 anadrol (40mg ed)
1-13 test e (500 pw) split mon and thur
1-12 eq (500 pw) split mon and thur

not use nolva during cycle, only if gyno starts.
As for pct i will use novla starting 2 weeks after last injection
week 1-2 40mg nolva
week 3-4 20mg nolva
My ? is what should I add to combat pct if anything. I've have seen many threads that say never use proviron for pct, just on cycle. Hcg maybe? and at what dosage? other than that, look good?

never use nolva on cycle
the best thing is to run a low dose of letro .25mg eod to prevent anything. but if you run without an ai, then pick up letro with the first gyno sign.

read my thread on pct

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013