20 yrs old, first cycle...looking to get big

**vishus** · 08-13-2008, 07:46 PM

hey guys,

whats up, im new to the forum here. was referred to it by another member on here. Ok, business....Im 20 yrs old, 5'10", 225, 8% BF, and have been bodybuilding for almost 4 years. I did an NPC contest this past may and did a keto diet and lost too much mass ( i know im retarded). now that im back into mass gain, what would be a perfect begginer's cycle? I was told test e, dbol (4 weeks 50mg), and deca ? also PCT is foggy to me i know i need clomid, arimidex , and nolva. Any info would help TONS!

**burnin69** · 08-13-2008, 07:48 PM

your a little young but try plain ol' test all by itself.

**DS21** · 08-13-2008, 07:49 PM

20, sort of young. If you were going to start a cycle I would go with 500mg test/w and dbol for the first 4 50mg/ed would be great. But read the pct threads and list it all out before you start.

**T_Own** · 08-13-2008, 07:50 PM

pretty nice stats..
test dbol would be a good start. 500mg /w test e with 50mg dbol ed.

**WARMachine** · 08-13-2008, 07:50 PM

Wow dude if you made it to 225 at 5'10 with 8% BF natural! Youre a stud!

whats your daily diet look like with macros...

Im sure its on par due to your stats, but humor me...

**RangersLTW** · 08-13-2008, 07:50 PM

8% bf at 225 and 5'10"?

**Lift_Heavy_NY** · 08-13-2008, 07:50 PM

Stay away from hormones for awhile, sound like your in great shape, dial in a mass diet and let thing happen naturally for awhile. Dont want to start suppressing your self to soon, you'll be shot when your in your 30's.

**WARMachine** · 08-13-2008, 07:52 PM

and yes,

1-12 wks Test E 250mg 2XW
1-4 wks Dbol 25mgs 2XD

is an ideal beginner cycle

**one8nine** · 08-13-2008, 11:58 PM

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Test beginner cycle info

phate's starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355504

kale's starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331179

my (one8nine's) starter pack
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=352741

**DesiBoy** · 08-14-2008, 12:58 AM

that's some nice stats, dude you need to post some pics. At 20 years old that's not bad at all.

**scribbs12** · 08-14-2008, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by RangersLTW

8% bf at 225 and 5'10"?

yeah those are some pretty good stats.. nice.. whats ur diet like?

**vishus** · 08-14-2008, 12:04 PM

diet consists of a different carb rotation i found some time ago, my daily diet includes havign the first 2-3 meals (before workout) of just protein and fats, then for the next 4 meals after my workout will consist of 80-100 grams of carbs, then the last meal or two would be protein and fat. i would say 350-400g protein, 300g carbs, and roughly 6-80g fat daily. on no workout days first 4-5 meals are protein/carbs then the last 4-5 meals are protein/fat.

NOTE: Im not going to start cycling while im still this young, im trying to find the right cycle so when i do start, ill have my gear ready and all the info i need to just get into it with no worries. Thanks for the info/comments guys.

NOTE: the only reason i have low bodyfat now i due to just getting done with a contest i did not too long ago, its starting to go back up, no dont think im in any contest shape haha