How's this cycle look?

[WOLFCRAFT]

Thinking out my next one in the Fall...

Weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth
50mg daily Dbol

Weeks 5-6
500mg Test

Weeks 7-10
500mg Test
1cc EOD of Tren Ace

Weeks 11 & 12
Nothing

Weeks 13 & 14
Nolvadex 20mg daily


I can already hear my wallet screaming in agony...

Thoughts?

[stallion_1]

Thinking out my next one in the Fall...

Weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth
50mg daily Dbol

Weeks 5-6
500mg Test

Weeks 7-10
500mg Test
1cc EOD of Tren Ace

Weeks 11 & 12
Nothing

Weeks 13 & 14
Nolvadex 20mg daily


I can already hear my wallet screaming in agony...

Thoughts?

bad cycle, ill tell u why
1.dbol is to high at 50 mg, ull get better results if you run the dbol 35 mg ed for 1-6 weeks
2. trenbolone needs to be ran longer than a mere 3 weeks
u should run it weeks 1-8 at the beginning of a cycle not at the end
3. with test e u need 3 and not 2 weeks in between last shot and pct, so pct starts at week 14
4. ur pct is short and week
5.pct needs to be ran for 4 weeks
6.nolvadex will get rid of test gyno,but what about tren gyno, u need arimidex while on cycle in case of gyno, arimidex is ****ing expensive
7.u need also something to kickstart ur test levels like clomid
8.nolva needs to be ran at a higher dose

[PT]

is this your 1st? i would add an AI in with the nolva for pct. run 4 weeks of nolva at 20mgs and either armidex at .5mgs or aromasin at 20mgs starting 2 weeks after last test injection. the tren should be run a little longer or if this is your 1st just drop it all together.

[WOLFCRAFT]

Okay cool, some good info here.
I'll adjust to run the tren longer and at the beginning. I've ran tren before and had no gyno problems with it so that should be cool.
And I'll run the nolva 4 weeks instead of 2 but what dose is recommended?
Are clomid and nolva interchangeable or do I need both?

Also what's an AI? Anti Inflammatory?

Thanks for the help.

[stallion_1]

Okay cool, some good info here.
I'll adjust to run the tren longer and at the beginning. I've ran tren before and had no gyno problems with it so that should be cool.
And I'll run the nolva 4 weeks instead of 2 but what dose is recommended?
Are clomid and nolva interchangeable or do I need both?

Also what's an AI? Anti Inflammatory?

Thanks for the help.

ai=aromatize inhibitor
weeks 14-15 nolva 40 mg ed clomd 150 mg ed
weeks 16-17 nolva 20 mg ed clomid 100 mg ed

when u grow tren titis and somebody gives u a bra for ur bd, ull 'member me.

[PT]

Okay cool, some good info here.
I'll adjust to run the tren longer and at the beginning. I've ran tren before and had no gyno problems with it so that should be cool.
And I'll run the nolva 4 weeks instead of 2 but what dose is recommended?
Are clomid and nolva interchangeable or do I need both?

Also what's an AI? Anti Inflammatory?

Thanks for the help.

run an AI like aromasin or armidex along with a serm like clomid or nolva for pct. here is what i like

1-4 nolva 20mgs ed
1-4 armidex .5mgs ed

you dont need both clomid and nolva and since most people see more sides with clomid i would drop that

[inky-e]

Happy birthday heres you bra!! hahahaha 48 dddd

[RANA]

Thinking out my next one in the Fall...

Weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth
50mg daily Dbol

Weeks 5-6
500mg Test

Weeks 7-10
500mg Test
1cc EOD of Tren Ace

Weeks 11 & 12
Nothing

Weeks 13 & 14
Nolvadex 20mg daily


I can already hear my wallet screaming in agony...

Thoughts?

You need to run Test E for 12 weeks and not start your PCT until 14 days after your last shot. Your PCT is too short. I would not go more than 40 mg of DBOL. What are your stats?

[WOLFCRAFT]

Here's a question... if I'm starting the tren right at the beginning of the cycle, do I still really even need the dbol for the kickstart?

In that 12 week period where's the best weeks to run the tren you think?

[Coop77]

Here's a question... if I'm starting the tren right at the beginning of the cycle, do I still really even need the dbol for the kickstart?

In that 12 week period where's the best weeks to run the tren you think?

I don't think dbol would add much benefit to your cycle. If you're using a short ester tren it'll hit you pretty fast.

[Jfew44]

If you're running tren ace then no you dont need dbol . I would, however, shoot it ed instead of eod. If you have tren exp I'd run it 1-10 and run your test till week 12 then PCT like PT said

[WOLFCRAFT]

Okay cool, that's money I'm saving not having to buy the dbol then so that works for me.
Last tren cycle it only took about a week to really hit me so that sounds good.

If I run it ED instead of EOD I imagine I should do half the dose correct?
(Instead of 1 cc EOD shoot 1/2 cc ED)

Should I frontload the test e at all and how much?

Thanks for the input.

[WOLFCRAFT]

Also should I run the same PCT if I subtract the dbol ?

[one8nine]

Thinking out my next one in the Fall...

Weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth
50mg daily Dbol

Weeks 5-6
500mg Test

Weeks 7-10
500mg Test
1cc EOD of Tren Ace

Weeks 11 & 12
Nothing

Weeks 13 & 14
Nolvadex 20mg daily


I can already hear my wallet screaming in agony...

Thoughts?

1-4 dbol 50mg
1-10 test e
7-10 tren ace eod
13-14 pct
right?

dbol is okay
test e is okay, could be longer
tren 3 weeks is useless, and eod is a bad idea
your pct starts at the right time but is weak, and short

drop the tren, add onto pct, use arimidex .25mg ed on cycle to prevent sides

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

[one8nine]

bad cycle, ill tell u why
1.dbol is to high at 50 mg, ull get better results if you run the dbol 35 mg ed for 1-6 weeks
2. trenbolone needs to be ran longer than a mere 3 weeks
u should run it weeks 1-8 at the beginning of a cycle not at the end
3. with test e u need 3 and not 2 weeks in between last shot and pct, so pct starts at week 14
4. ur pct is short and week
5.pct needs to be ran for 4 weeks
6.nolvadex will get rid of test gyno,but what about tren gyno, u need arimidex while on cycle in case of gyno, arimidex is ****ing expensive
7.u need also something to kickstart ur test levels like clomid
8.nolva needs to be ran at a higher dose

3. wrong
6. did you just make that up? you need to do some research on nolva
8. wrong

[one8nine]

ai=aromatize inhibitor
weeks 14-15 nolva 40 mg ed clomd 150 mg edweeks 16-17 nolva 20 mg ed clomid 100 mg ed

when u grow tren titis and somebody gives u a bra for ur bd, ull 'member me.

these clomid dosages are ABUSE.
25mg ed
you need an ai still. clomid/nolva isnt enough.

[one8nine]

Okay cool, some good info here.
I'll adjust to run the tren longer and at the beginning. I've ran tren before and had no gyno problems with it so that should be cool.
And I'll run the nolva 4 weeks instead of 2 but what dose is recommended?
Are clomid and nolva interchangeable or do I need both?

Also what's an AI? Anti Inflammatory?

Thanks for the help.

you NEED nolva
clomid HELPS but you dont NEED it
you should really add aromasin or proviron to pct

[one8nine]

Here's a question... if I'm starting the tren right at the beginning of the cycle, do I still really even need the dbol for the kickstart?

In that 12 week period where's the best weeks to run the tren you think?

1. no
2. anywhere you want but do it every day

[one8nine]

Okay cool, that's money I'm saving not having to buy the dbol then so that works for me.
Last tren cycle it only took about a week to really hit me so that sounds good.

If I run it ED instead of EOD I imagine I should do half the dose correct?
(Instead of 1 cc EOD shoot 1/2 cc ED)

Should I frontload the test e at all and how much?

Thanks for the input.

yes 50mg ed.
even that is a hefty dose my friend
if youre kickstarting with tren dont bother with a frontload

[one8nine]

Also should I run the same PCT if I subtract the dbol?

pct is pct is pct bro
all pcts need nolva and an ai
and if you got the extra cash and want a boost you can add hcg
that goes for any reaL cycle

[WOLFCRAFT]

Thanks one8nine!

Here's my revised verision-

Weeks 1-8
Test E 500 mg
Tren 1/2 cc daily

Weeks 9-12
Test E 500 mg

Weeks 15-18
Nolva 20mg
Armidex .25


How's that revision sound?

Do I take that amount of PCT everyday or once a week?
And should I start the armidex any earlier or at the same time as the nolva?

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

Thanks one8nine!

Here's my revised verision-

Weeks 1-8
Test E 500 mg
Tren 1/2 cc daily

Weeks 9-12
Test E 500 mg

Weeks 15-18
Nolva 20mg
Armidex .25


How's that revision sound?

Do I take that amount of PCT everyday or once a week?
And should I start the armidex any earlier or at the same time as the nolva?Everyday. Same time.

Answers in bold.

[WOLFCRAFT]

Killer.
Think I'm set.
Thanks.

[one8nine]

Thanks one8nine!

Here's my revised verision-

Weeks 1-8
Test E 500 mg
Tren 1/2 cc daily

Weeks 9-12
Test E 500 mg

Weeks 15-18
Nolva 20mg
Armidex .25


How's that revision sound?

Do I take that amount of PCT everyday or once a week?
And should I start the armidex any earlier or at the same time as the nolva?

you can actually run arimidex all cycle if you want
keep letro on hand test/tren can cause gyno/sides 2 ways
arimidex isnt the best pct choice. proviron or aromasin 50mg ed would be better
thats your ed dosage

[WOLFCRAFT]

What would be the benefit of running armidex, proviron , or aromasin all cycle if I did that?

[WOLFCRAFT]

keep letro on hand test/tren can cause gyno/sides 2 ways

Can't I just keep nolva on hand in case of gyno sides during cycle?

[one8nine]

id rather prevent sides with a low dose all cycle than try to fight them with a high dose last minute

read how fun that can be
(no sex drive, gains stop, etc)
gyno reversal
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

[jstraw428]

Thinking out my next one in the Fall...

Weeks 1-4
500mg Test Enth
50mg daily Dbol

Weeks 5-6
500mg Test

Weeks 7-10
500mg Test
1cc EOD of Tren Ace

Weeks 11 & 12
Nothing

Weeks 13 & 14
Nolvadex 20mg daily


I can already hear my wallet screaming in agony...

Thoughts?

why would your wallet be screaming in agony........that is a very basic and very inexpensive cycle......

[WOLFCRAFT]

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[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

why would your wallet be screaming in agony........that is a very basic and very inexpensive cycle......

Depends on who his source his.

[WOLFCRAFT]

id rather prevent sides with a low dose all cycle than try to fight them with a high dose last minute

read how fun that can be
(no sex drive, gains stop, etc)
gyno reversal
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=236880

So if I run a small dose of letro (.25mg) everyday starting a couple weeks before my cycle and then throughout, do I keep the same pct?
Is letro the only drug I could use this way?
Want to be as strict as possible in preventing titties, yet still keep my cycle safe and effective.

[CheddaNips]

no prices bro. read the rules. And if you are paying that much, you are getting robbed by more than double

[WOLFCRAFT]

Ah well, getting screwed again. Story of my life.

Real question still is whether or not to run letro during the cycle if I'm keeping the same nolva and armidex pct?
What do you all recommend?
I'd like to run something to block titties during as well as after.

[stallion_1]

Ah well, getting screwed again. Story of my life.

Real question still is whether or not to run letro during the cycle if I'm keeping the same nolva and armidex pct?
What do you all recommend?
I'd like to run something to block titties during as well as after.

id not use it

only if u see gyno signs

[Browns4Life86]

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[WOLFCRAFT]

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What to run and when to run it is really what I'm here to find out.

[stallion_1]

Edited


What to run and when to run it is really what I'm here to find out.

'tis not rocket science dude

finding the solution to a partial differential equation is

[WOLFCRAFT]

So do I need to bother with the letro at all or will the nolva and armidex pct do the job?

[mkrulic]

did you ever answer if this was your first cycle? ignore all advice untill you post stats.

[mkrulic]

'tis not rocket science dude

finding the solution to a partial differential equation is

use fourier series