Prevent hair loss/testicle shrinking & Gyno

**PhillyFan** · 08-18-2008, 08:02 AM

I am looking at different first cycle options.

Here is a cycle I found that looks like it may add lean mass & prevent sides.... before they are an issue. Let me know what you guys think.

PS Test is Test Ent

Weeks 1-10:
*500mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg) Hair Loss
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg) Gyno
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg) Testes shrinking & low sperm
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 11:
*300mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 13:
*1.25mg of finasteride per day
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day

Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day

**LATS60** · 08-18-2008, 08:59 AM

Test E 500mg Wk 12 wks, hcg for ball shrinkage, AI's and serms on hand if needed, fincar if there's MPB in the family (mothers side) if not i wouldn't take that either, imo only take what you need to.
PS, why are you decreasing the dosage of test? are you on trt or cutting down to a cruise? Last but not least, age, stats, training history.

**PhillyFan** · 08-18-2008, 09:07 AM

Stats

43 y/o, 5-10 165, 10%BF, 25 years training,

No reason to lower test. This is someone's cycle I found and lowering the test was part of his cycle.

PS - For acne - sun (Qrtifical or natural), 2 showers per day, & bath in epson salts and 1c bleach (If i recall correctly).

**LATS60** · 08-18-2008, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by PhillyFan

Stats

43 y/o, 5-10 165, 10%BF, 25 years training,

No reason to lower test. This is someone's cycle I found and lowering the test was part of his cycle.

PS - For acne - sun (Qrtifical or natural), 2 showers per day, & bath in epson salts and 1c bleach (If i recall correctly).

Yep the sun bed does it for me( natural sun in the UK

) and a scrub twice daily, 43 hey mate, thats about when i stopped PCT and started TRT.

**PhillyFan** · 08-18-2008, 09:53 AM

My total test level is 553. Just had it done. You know what happens when you turn 40. The wind would blow @ 20 & 30 and I was ready. Now I need carmen electra.

**Gears** · 08-18-2008, 04:37 PM

Whats the test ester bro? It seems like you might be starting PCT a bit early if its test-e you should wait till 16 days after your last injection to start PCT.

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-18-2008, 04:44 PM

oh dont bother tapering off. Keep your dose consistent.

**Kratos** · 08-18-2008, 05:05 PM

comid isn't going to do anything durring cycle, save it for pct
I wouldn't bother with hcg either, just let your balls loose a little size. They'll come back durring pct. 2 weeks is not long enough pct and you could wait 2 weeks after last injection to start.

**oak2429** · 08-18-2008, 05:46 PM

what happens when you get off the fincar. do you lose your hair then?

**JiGGaMaN** · 08-18-2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by oak2429

what happens when you get off the fincar. do you lose your hair then?

I would imagine so. Wikipedia.org has a good article on finasteride with studies as well.

**one8nine** · 08-19-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by PhillyFan

Weeks 1-10:
*500mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg) Hair Loss
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg) Gyno
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg) Testes shrinking & low sperm
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 11:
*300mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

Week 12:
*200mg testosterone per week
*1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
*1 tablet of clomid every day (50mg)
*320mg of standardized Saw Palmetto Extract per day

looks good but do not use clomid on cycle
dont lower your test use 500g per week split across 2 injects

Originally Posted by PhillyFan

Week 13:
*1.25mg of finasteride per day
*.25mg of Arimidex every other day
*100mg of clomid every day

Week 14:
*1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every 3rd day (0.25mg)
*50mg of clomid every day

no clomid yet.
if your cycle ends week 12, you need a pct sytarting week 15
hcg is the only thing on cycle that will keep your nuts huge

hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/355725-crash-course-hcg.html#post4127466

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/354573-one8nines-opinion-pct-links-side-effect-control-too.html#post4111013

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
estrogen/progesterone and gyno/side effects INFO FOR NEW GUYS

**infojunky79** · 08-20-2008, 10:44 AM

I NEED HELP!!!

First of all please excuse me if I unknowingly use any wrong terms as I am still in between novice and intermediate as far as knowledge goes........But,

I have done one cycle of sust. 250 and Deca successfully. (8 weeks) I have been off just about as long or more as I was on. The results were ok and I was impressed for my first time obviuosly, but i did not PCT correctly and lost alot of size, sex drive etc. The main concern I have is LOSS OF HAIR! It is, at this point, starting to fall out. I am scared to be honest. I have fine limp hair and feel I just may be predisposed to hair loss anyway but I have seemed only speed up the progress.

My questions are (and I hope someone can enlighten me):

Is this temporary and will it possibly come back?
If I decided to start another cycle, what is the safest one to do?
what anti-hair loss products do I sue to combat the side effects, reverse or atleast keep what I have?
Should I have blood work done to see where levels are?
And most importantly.....WHAT IS THE PROPER COMBO OF PCT?

Thanks so much for the help anyone can provide.

**one8nine** · 08-20-2008, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by infojunky79

I NEED HELP!!!

First of all please excuse me if I unknowingly use any wrong terms as I am still in between novice and intermediate as far as knowledge goes........But,

I have done one cycle of sust. 250 and Deca successfully. (8 weeks) I have been off just about as long or more as I was on. The results were ok and I was impressed for my first time obviuosly, but i did not PCT correctly and lost alot of size, sex drive etc. The main concern I have is LOSS OF HAIR! It is, at this point, starting to fall out. I am scared to be honest. I have fine limp hair and feel I just may be predisposed to hair loss anyway but I have seemed only speed up the progress.

My questions are (and I hope someone can enlighten me):

Is this temporary and will it possibly come back?
If I decided to start another cycle, what is the safest one to do?
what anti-hair loss products do I sue to combat the side effects, reverse or atleast keep what I have?
Should I have blood work done to see where levels are?
And most importantly.....WHAT IS THE PROPER COMBO OF PCT?

Thanks so much for the help anyone can provide.

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