want advise for my next cycle

[atomfunk]

GOAL: quality and sustainable gains as well as shedding some body fat. BF% currently at 17%. Im 30, 6ft and 197lbs. Been cycling since late 90's so I'm not new to the scene.

my next cycle will consist of the following approximate 12 week cycle and dosages:
Tren -Enanthate : 200-300mg/wk (weeks 6-12)
Primo Depot: 200-400mg/wk
Test Cyp: 250-500mg/wk
Test P: 300mg/wk **(weeks 1-2 and 11-12)**to have some effects while i wait for the longer acting esters to kick in/wear off.
Proviron : 25-50mg/day all 12 weeks through PCT
PCT: HCG 2500IU x 4, clomid, proviron (also have plenty of arimidex on hand just in case)

any advice, thoughts or concerns come to mind about my next cycle? i don't know of too many people cycling tren for longer than 6 weeks, why? too many sides/aggression? what oral could i add into the mix that would complement these substances? I am leaning toward tbol, anavar , or winnie but winnie-tabs gave me kidney pains the last time i took them...any suggestions based on these criteria? thanks

[smokethedays]

Better gains come from short esters. so if you can stick to the Test Prop and ED shots. that is ur best shot.

week 1-12 50 mg Test P. ED
week 1-12 75 mg Primo ED (mix it with the Test in the same syringe)
week 12.5- 15 PCT

Good luck

[WARMachine]

Terrible cycle...
Why do you have three different tests?
Why do you have Test E for wk 6-12?
And whats up with Proviron 25mg-50mg daily? How bad is your gyno?

17%BF is too high to start a cycle...

diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
# of cycles and what did you do?
pct/estrogen control knowledge

[one8nine]

GOAL: quality and sustainable gains as well as shedding some body fat. BF% currently at 17%. Im 30, 6ft and 197lbs. Been cycling since late 90's so I'm not new to the scene.

you will get much better results with a good diet. at 17% you might not be new to sauce but you apparently are new to diet.
diet
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355744
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=6
http://www.steroid.com/diet.php

my next cycle will consist of the following approximate 12 week cycle and dosages:
Tren -Enanthate : 200-300mg/wk (weeks 6-12)
Primo Depot: 200-400mg/wk
Test Cyp: 250-500mg/wk
Test P: 300mg/wk **(weeks 1-2 and 11-12)**to have some effects while i wait for the longer acting esters to kick in/wear off.
Proviron : 25-50mg/day all 12 weeks through PCT
PCT: HCG 2500IU x 4, clomid, proviron (also have plenty of arimidex on hand just in case)

tren takes 4-6 weeks to even peak, and needs to be cut 3 weeks before pct. make it 1-11
primos ok but thats a little low
cyp looks good
test p is okay i dont really like it 1-2 though

so pct starts week 15
proviron 18 weeks is way too long leave it for pct
that hcg dose isss wwaayy tooo hiighh
you need nolva in pct
arimidex wont do anything for tren you need letro

hcg crash course
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4127466

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

estrogen/progesterone side effect control on cycle
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=354229

[one8nine]

Terrible cycle...
Why do you have three different tests?
Why do you have Test E for wk 6-12?
And whats up with Proviron 25mg-50mg daily? How bad is your gyno?

17%BF is too high to start a cycle...

diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
# of cycles and what did you do?
pct/estrogen control knowledge

its tren e not test e

[WARMachine]

^^^ oh damn...

Ok then, in that case...

Go with what 189 is telling ya!