test e + winny

**svalleyg135** · 08-25-2008, 01:22 AM

whats up so for my next cycle im plannin on doin test e and winny. i was thinkin something like this:

1-12 500mg test/ week
6-12 ? mg winny/ day

I was wondering how many mg of winny is recommended. ive read some people like 30mg and some do 50mg. its my first time usin winny

also, what sort of results should i expect to end up with if i eat clean but big durin the cycle and do a good amount of cardio the last 4-6 weeks? thanks

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by svalleyg135

whats up so for my next cycle im plannin on doin test e and winny. i was thinkin something like this:

1-12 500mg test/ week
6-12 ? mg winny/ day

I was wondering how many mg of winny is recommended. ive read some people like 30mg and some do 50mg. its my first time usin winny

also, what sort of results should i expect to end up with if i eat clean but big durin the cycle and do a good amount of cardio the last 4-6 weeks? thanks

im assuming ur taking winny pills

tell me
age
height
weight
bf %

**svalleyg135** · 08-25-2008, 01:27 AM

ya pills

19
6'1
215
13%

please save any comments about the age thing

**WARMachine** · 08-25-2008, 01:32 AM

forgot this stallion...
And in response to your comment on "the age thing" you admit you are too young for AAS right?

diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience (including current one with dosege)
pct/estrogen control knowledge

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by svalleyg135

ya pills

19
6'1
215
13%

please save any comments about the age thing

u got ok stats besides the age, but i aint ur daddy

so i guess ur goal is cutting, well the effective dose for pills is 50-100 mg ed

ur planning on doing pct right

**svalleyg135** · 08-25-2008, 01:34 AM

ya of course pct clomid and arimidex probably i still have to get everything first. so as far as the winny should i start with 50 and pyramid it up to 100 and back down to 50 or what

**WARMachine** · 08-25-2008, 01:37 AM

Whats your PCT look like Svalley...

you know you need nolva in that as wel right?

Pryamiding is pointless, just start with 50ED and maybe work up to 70 or so... Then stay there till stopping...

Btw answering this would help...:

diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience (including current one with dosege)
pct/estrogen control knowledge

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by svalleyg135

ya of course pct clomid and arimidex probably i still have to get everything first. so as far as the winny should i start with 50 and pyramid it up to 100 and back down to 50 or what

remember to get nolvadex too
yea winny weeks 6-12 is ok but no more since winny pills are methylated n they take a toll on ur liver
why would u pyramid it?
since this is ur first cycle keep it at a constant 50 mg ed, remember more does not mean better gains

**svalleyg135** · 08-25-2008, 01:40 AM

ill post all this info soon itll take a while so bare with me

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by svalleyg135

ill post all this info soon itll take a while so bare with me

post ur pct too

**WARMachine** · 08-25-2008, 01:42 AM

Take your time Svalley

On a side note, do you really think its worth using Winny in a Test E cycle Stallion?

Just curious on your take, wouldnt you agree Prop would be better way to go, at maybe 10 weeks and winny 5-10?

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Take your time Svalley

On a side note, do you really think its worth using Winny in a Test E cycle Stallion?

Just curious on your take, wouldnt you agree Prop would be better way to go, at maybe 10 weeks and winny 5-10?

oh definitively id say winny with test p since theyre both cutting steroids
but ur friend 189 keeps arguing that one can cut on any steroid , even test suspension besides i think this dude is a newb and prop is not newbie friendly

**WARMachine** · 08-25-2008, 01:51 AM

I concur Prop is not newbie friendly... And yes one can cut with on any steroid !(given the non-obvious onea such as Drol, dbol etc...) He is correct(as per usual), but only when diet and training are squared away...

Which since youve neglected to ask this newb, and hes neglected to answer my questions, im assuming his diet and training are not in fact squared away...

Let alone his PCT with from what he mentioned earlier and failed to include nolva in his PCT!

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

I concur Prop is not newbie friendly... And yes one can cut with on any steroid !(given the non-obvious onea such as Drol, dbol etc...) He is correct(as per usual), but only when diet and training are squared away...

Which since youve neglected to ask this newb, and hes neglected to answer my questions, im assuming his diet and training are not in fact squared away...

Let alone his PCT with from what he mentioned earlier and failed to include nolva in his PCT!

well he thinks u can even cut on dbol n drol

**WARMachine** · 08-25-2008, 01:57 AM

Oh please come on now... Do you have a source on that? Or are just takin a jab?

And btw, just a opinon, but i like to ask guys not only age, height, weight, and BF%
but also
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience (including current one with dosege)
pct/estrogen control knowledge

idk, thats just me though... Just a tip!

**svalleyg135** · 08-25-2008, 01:57 AM

actually my diet and my training are very strict and serious. i guarantee i train harder and eat better than most people hear, i just simply dont have as much experience with steroids as some

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 02:02 AM

ok whats ur pct

**WARMachine** · 08-25-2008, 02:02 AM

Ok then you wouldnt mind showing me perhaps?

Just a small diet summary will do...

Just what a days worth of food intake is... Include macros as well...

And do you have any PCT knowledge or cycle experience?

**stallion_1** · 08-25-2008, 02:05 AM

he seems to be shy
well 'member to do pct or else say bye to gf

**Booz** · 08-25-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by stallion_1

remember to get nolvadex too
yea winny weeks 6-12 is ok but no more since winny pills are methylated n they take a toll on ur liver
why would u pyramid it?
since this is ur first cycle keep it at a constant 50 mg ed, remember more does not mean better gains

actually it would be much better to run the winny 2 weeks past the last test e inject as then everythin will be out of his system roughly the day after the last winny pills/jab watever,then he can start his post cycle therapy ............

**one8nine** · 08-25-2008, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by svalleyg135

ya of course pct clomid and arimidex probably i still have to get everything first. so as far as the winny should i start with 50 and pyramid it up to 100 and back down to 50 or what

that pct is soft

my pct
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=4111013

pyramiding sucks pick a dose and stick it

**one8nine** · 08-25-2008, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by svalleyg135

whats up so for my next cycle im plannin on doin test e and winny. i was thinkin something like this:

1-12 500mg test/ week
6-12 ? mg winny/ day

I was wondering how many mg of winny is recommended. ive read some people like 30mg and some do 50mg. its my first time usin winny

also, what sort of results should i expect to end up with if i eat clean but big durin the cycle and do a good amount of cardio the last 4-6 weeks? thanks

make it
1-12 test
8-14 winny
15- pct

**one8nine** · 08-25-2008, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Oh please come on now... Do you have a source on that? Or are just takin a jab?

And btw, just a opinon, but i like to ask guys not only age, height, weight, and BF%
but also
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience (including current one with dosege)
pct/estrogen control knowledge

idk, thats just me though... Just a tip!

why cant you use dbol or drol to maintain muscle while cutting fat
you CAN , its not the best choice , but you CAN