Has anyone tried 25g pins

**freemansout2003** · 09-04-2008, 05:02 PM

I wouldn't even bother the oil is so thick it won't even draw from the vial.. has anyone tried 25 g pins with sucess? If so, what's the secret

**bodybuilder1107** · 09-04-2008, 05:04 PM

nope im getting ready for first cycle gear is on its way and i bought 23 gauge that seems to be the most popular where are you shooting?

**widowmaker2** · 09-04-2008, 05:06 PM

25's do work they just take forever to get the oil out of the vial and to pump in the muscle

**Skully44420** · 09-04-2008, 05:13 PM

22g ftw!!

**Phate** · 09-04-2008, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by freemansout2003

I wouldn't even bother the oil is so thick it won't even draw from the vial.. has anyone tried 25 g pins with sucess? If so, what's the secret

you can heat the oil to make it easier to draw, or draw with a 18g and shoot with a 25, or just use a 22 or 23g

**generation_ss** · 09-04-2008, 05:20 PM

on my last cycle half way threw i ran out of syringes and went to walgreens and all they had was 22G..... talk about a pain in the ass

i've used 25g for my delts..just takes a lil more time to draw it

**Kale** · 09-04-2008, 05:22 PM

the idea ist to draw with an 18g or 19g which will take about 2 seconds then change the pin to whatever you want. 25G is fine for injecting, I personally use 23g but thats just me

**JiGGaMaN** · 09-04-2008, 05:33 PM

Yeah im using 25g right now. as we speak. but i do prefer 27 or 29 gauge if i can get them. I use ETHYL OLEATE though. 25g is a whole world of difference compared to 21 or 22g. heheh, you guys are all suckas.

**T3/T4 GSR** · 09-04-2008, 05:39 PM

Always use 25....I just draw with a 22

**jstraw428** · 09-04-2008, 05:41 PM

same here, i use a 22g to draw and a 25g to inject.....smooth like butter

**mkrulic** · 09-04-2008, 05:43 PM

use 25. Im around 10%

**jstraw428** · 09-04-2008, 05:46 PM

whether your fat or not, does not matter with gauge size.......

**mkrulic** · 09-04-2008, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by jstraw428

whether your fat or not, does not matter with gauge size.......

youre right, Im half asleep

**Lemonada8** · 09-04-2008, 05:48 PM

i use 20g to draw and 25g to shoot... perfect... it only takes about 10 sec.... but i have home brew with grapeseed oil....

**binder** · 09-04-2008, 05:56 PM

it's just a little needle. use the 23g. i used 25g for a while but got sick of waiting 5 minutes for an injection to finish. I want to be in and out. 23g is where it's at. 30 seconds if i go super slow and i'm done.

**needle** · 09-04-2008, 06:39 PM

22 or 23 ... 25 is to small and takes to much time...

**RuhlFreak55** · 09-04-2008, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Lemonada8

i use 20g to draw and 25g to shoot... perfect... it only takes about 10 sec

that's what i do......at least for delts and quads.....i use 23 for glutes

**Older lifter** · 09-05-2008, 06:26 AM

22g here with no prob's and not too much time in filling

**kingwilliam** · 09-05-2008, 07:28 AM

I have only ever used 22g and it has never hurt and usually goes pretty quick

**binder** · 09-05-2008, 08:14 AM

ya, i don't know how someone pushes through a 25g in 10 seconds. I don't see that possible with test enanthate .

**mauler** · 09-05-2008, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by binder

ya, i don't know how someone pushes through a 25g in 10 seconds. I don't see that possible with test enanthate.

i agree,impossible.
maybe 30-45 sec
thats what i use and its definately slow injecting

**redz** · 09-05-2008, 08:44 AM

i agree,impossible.
maybe 30-45 sec
thats what i use and its definately slow injecting

I can do it in about 20 seconds but 23G is definitely faster but for the extra time it takes and almost not feeling the pin at all I prefer 25G

**Kratos** · 09-05-2008, 08:48 AM

I draw with a 22 and inject with a 25...I tried 23's to inject...25's way better...I inject everyday, it makes a difference.

**Older lifter** · 09-05-2008, 09:38 AM

I must have a numb arse or something, i find the 22g goes in sometimes without even feeling it

**binder** · 09-05-2008, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

I draw with a 22 and inject with a 25...I tried 23's to inject...25's way better...I inject everyday, it makes a difference.

hmm....i might try to dissolve my stuff in a lighter oil then. what oils are being used for these 25g needles?

**Kratos** · 09-05-2008, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by binder

hmm....i might try to dissolve my stuff in a lighter oil then. what oils are being used for these 25g needles?

It's easier to push something thru a needle than pull...nothing special about the oil. I can draw with a 22 pretty quick, the only reason I don't use something bigger to draw than 22 is because I use 100ml multi dose vials. The top gets to be swiss cheese after awhile if you're using a big needle.

**binder** · 09-06-2008, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Kratos

It's easier to push something thru a needle than pull...nothing special about the oil. I can draw with a 22 pretty quick, the only reason I don't use something bigger to draw than 22 is because I use 100ml multi dose vials. The top gets to be swiss cheese after awhile if you're using a big needle.

ya, because drawing causes a vacuum but injecting is trying to compress a fluid that doesn't compress. Still takes a while. I think it does have something to do with the viscosity of the oil. I've done plenty of injections in my time. I would say in the double digits every day i'm at the clinic. I'm quite familiar with them.

**Mulciber** · 09-06-2008, 11:39 AM

i use 20 to draw and 23 to inj.. but as stated above with EO your golden with 25g

**Kratos** · 09-06-2008, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by binder

ya, because drawing causes a vacuum but injecting is trying to compress a fluid that doesn't compress. Still takes a while. I think it does have something to do with the viscosity of the oil. I've done plenty of injections in my time. I would say in the double digits every day i'm at the clinic. I'm quite familiar with them.

yeah, you're right thinner oil will flow quicker/through a smaller gauge no doubt...the oil I use is just regular cotton-seed oil though.