Cycle critique ...

[alextg]

Hey guys .... I'm thinkin of running my 4th cycle , starting October or November and I'd like some thoughts or advices for that cycle ....

My stats are : 28yo , 5'7 , currently around 172lb , unknown %BF and i've been training for the past 11 yrs.

I'm thinkin of doing test e,deca ,oxymetholon or methandrostenolone ,tren a and maybe winny if i can put it inside.During the cycle i'll be getting 50mg proviron ED and Parlodel 2.5-5mg ED to counter sides.

So I was thinkin somethin like that :

wk 1-16 Test e 500mg/wk
wk 1-4 100mg Anapolon/Oxydrol or 40mg Dbol /Naposim ED
wk 1-10 600mg Deca/wk
wk 11-16 Tren A 75mg/EOD
(and maybe during 13-16wk get around 50mg winny ED)
After the cycle i'll do a 4wk PCT with HCG and Nolva.
Thanks in advance for the help

ps i'm doin' deca and test e for sure cause i can get them from pharmacy and they are cheaper than getting a candy ... so these are the musts I'm open to any other removes/adds

[rhino1]

Looks to me you need to modifiy your diet if this is your 4th cycle and your only 172 and have been training 11 years...

[rhino1]

I'd keep it a bit more simple...
Test 750
deca 600
dbol 50/day

why tren last four weeks?

Maybe Try
Test e 750/wk
Tren e 600/wk
Dbol 50/day x 4wks

[Phate]

Looks to me you need to modifiy your diet if this is your 4th cycle and your only 172 and have been training 11 years...

agreed, lets see the diet

[wukillabee]

[QUOTE=rhino1;4179831]
why tren last four weeks?

Cus he doesnt know what hes doing, duh! Never heard of someone standing 5 7", 172lbs, training 11 years, and already 3-4 cycles. Must be 1%bf or doesnt know sh*t bout diet and training. Then again, what do i know. Haha!

[rhino1]

[QUOTE=wukillabee;4179845]

why tren last four weeks?

Cus he doesnt know what hes doing, duh! Never heard of someone standing 5 7", 172lbs, training 11 years, and already 3-4 cycles. Must be 1%bf or doesnt know sh*t bout diet and training. Then again, what do i know. Haha!

lol or its bunk gear...

[rhino1]

maybe he is a FED

[alextg]

Well first of all not all wonna be a pro body builder and i'm not 6+ft tall I'll be happy if after my cut diet i'll be around 182lbs for my height .

Rhino : Tren A is for 6 weeks and not 4 ... Was thinkin for 8 but cause its an EOD injectable it gets rather abit expensive

wukillabee : Training for 11 years ,havin done 3 cycles , i dont think thats very weird as the pass of time is kinda big.And if you dont know anyone that weights that much and done 3 cycles (2bulk-1cut) , well you just "met" one

Now , if anyone is happy to give some advice, i'd love to hear it
Thanks

[rhino1]

I'd keep it a bit more simple...
Test 750
deca 600
dbol 50/day

why tren last four weeks?

Maybe Try
Test e 750/wk
Tren e 600/wk
Dbol 50/day x 4wks

^^^advice^^^

and up your calories and get a new supplier

[alextg]

Thanks for the advice on the supplier ... I'll tell the local pharmacy to stop continuing nandrolone decanoate and test e , cause you said so Maybe i'll send an email myself to Norma Hellas and tell them to make their products better cause you said so

[rhino1]

Thanks for the advice on the supplier ... I'll tell the local pharmacy to stop continuing nandrolone decanoate and test e , cause you said so Maybe i'll send an email myself to Norma Hellas and tell them to make their products better cause you said so

ok...thats good...

doesn't this show you something???

Your diet is out of line...what is the point of juicing if you are scrawny? If you were sub 200lbs and like 1%bf that may be fine...but i doubt that...

were you 65lbs befor you ever cycled? if so...good progress...

[alextg]

I wouldnt mind reaching 200 , but that would be after the cycle ... so when i'll diet to cut to become around 180-185 ... I believe my diet is very good and the calorie intake is good again.Would love to post it , but translating all that and converting units is abit of a fuss.I could easily send it to you if you understand Greek

[rhino1]

I wouldnt mind reaching 200 , but that would be after the cycle ... so when i'll diet to cut to become around 180-185 ... I believe my diet is very good and the calorie intake is good again.Would love to post it , but translating all that and converting units is abit of a fuss.I could easily send it to you if you understand Greek

ok...so whats the point of you coming on here....

1st...your cycle is over complicated and wont even matter if your diet isn't in check...

Post your diet so phate can critique it...

[one8nine]

awe these guys are mean ill be nice

dear alex,
i would please like to see your diet, i really would like to have you reach your goals. due to your years training, cycles, and stats (do not take offence please) it is possible that your diet coul be improved. i know a thing or 2 about steroids , so i think i cant help you make a great cycle. but lets take this ne step at a time, starting with your diet please.
love,
189

[rhino1]

189....he is pretty ripped...look in members picture forum...id say he is sub 10%

[one8nine]

189....he is pretty ripped...look in members picture forum...id say he is sub 10%

i was ripped when i was 160 6%
but then i learned how to eat and i ended up at 215 7%

[rhino1]

i was ripped when i was 160 6%
but then i learned how to eat and i ended up at 215 7%

when god made you he broke the mold

[alextg]

Cause each day of my diet is different, i'll post 2 days
Tuesday
8am multivitamin,protein shake,brown bread with peanut butter+honey
11am tuna+spaghetti
12.30 1 banana
14.00 tuna+spaghetti+cottage
16.00 protein shake
18.00 tuna+spaghetti
21.00 tuna+spaghetti
00:00 protein shake+amino

Wednesday
8:00 multivitamin+oats with milk+1 banana
9:00 1 banana
11:00 1 sandwitch with turkey+cottage
13:00 chicken+spaghetti
15:00 1 banana
17:00 chicken+spaghetti
19:00 protein shake
21:00 chicken+spaghetti
00:00 protein+amino

After 2 months of this diet , i have a cheat day (Sunday).Hope this thing kinda helped

ps forgot to say that im a hrd gainer .... even tho i eat alot,i gain weight really hard

[alextg]

awe these guys are mean ill be nice

dear alex,
i would please like to see your diet, i really would like to have you reach your goals. due to your years training, cycles, and stats (do not take offence please) it is possible that your diet coul be improved. i know a thing or 2 about steroids , so i think i cant help you make a great cycle. but lets take this ne step at a time, starting with your diet please.
love,
189

thanks for the help .... hope the sample diet of 2 days i pasted would help