first cycle test E

**wildcyde6942** · 09-12-2008, 07:13 PM

second dart and my butt cheek is killing me have to lean to one side to sit. Is this normal?

**bbuilder** · 09-12-2008, 07:25 PM

Yep. Virgin muscle especially.

I still get sort after a pinning almost every time.

**Amorphic** · 09-12-2008, 09:19 PM

pain is influenced by the gear, the esters, concentration, BA content etc.

virgin muscle pain is totally normal and will get easier after a week or 2. i always have a slight ache after shooting that lasts a few days but its nothing that bothers me

**Older lifter** · 09-13-2008, 01:44 AM

test e will give a little soreness, but i would guess as long as the injection went ok, ie; deep enough, you pulled back a little to check and the speed of injection was not too quick, that the soreness you are talking about is normal, your muscle is virgin muscle and the corker feeling will deminnish as it gets used to the gear. you may know but don't forget that it will take some time for the test e to kick in.

**wildcyde6942** · 09-13-2008, 07:00 AM

should I alternate sides? or just a different spot?

**Auss11e** · 09-13-2008, 07:11 AM

Yes alternate.

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 07:16 AM

It's normal to have post injection pain, but the method i use now eradicates any post injection pain.

**bbuilder** · 09-13-2008, 08:57 AM

but the method i use now eradicates any post injection pain.

I'd love to hear it. I normally don't heat my gear, as I'm too lazy, but always wished I did a couple days later.

**wildcyde6942** · 09-13-2008, 03:22 PM

wanna tell me your secret?

**LATS60** · 09-13-2008, 03:45 PM

Sorry guys i was half asleep, it's getting late here in the UK.

Post injection pain can literally be a pain in the butt, amongst other places.
Hygiene and sterility, pre injection is obviously paramount in avoiding PIP.
We all know what that means, for those who don't it's in the stickies.

Ok, for the last month iv'e been using the Z track method and found that PIP especially in my quads is practically non-existent.

How to employ the Z track method?
Firstly get your injection point, then pull the skin across or down from that point, this moves the cutaneous and subcutaneous tissues a centimetre or two, this helps reduce the sensitivity of nerve endings, remembering to keep an eye on the injection point.

Next insert the needle sharply in at a 90dg angle to the depth you need.
Inject the steroid (after aspirating) at a rate of about 10 secs/ml, when fully injected keep the needle in place for another 10secs, so allowing the steroid to seep into the muscle.
Remove the syringe quickly, at exactly the angle you went in and release the skin, this is what stops any of your steroid leaking out and reduces bleeds, then apply a little pressure to the area, but don't massage the area, this can cause some of the oil to be released back up the needle track and into subcutaneous tissue, which can lead to swelling and PIP.

Exercising the muscle afterwards will assist the absorption of the steroid by increasing blood flow to the area.

Finally, if you know where and how to inject safely into the ventrogluteal muscle, this is the best choice as there are no major nerves or blood vessel.