is a sust only cycle a good call?

**koozy** · 09-14-2008, 10:30 PM

whatsup before i get started let me just say this is for a friend of mine who isn not a memeber...i know i know not believable but so be it thats the situation.. he wanted me to ask you guys if a 10 week sust 250 cycle would ok to do, with pct 4 weeks of nolva and 3 weeks of clomid... anyone have any suggestions if anything else is needed or that would help. once again this is not for me a pal asked me to do him a favor so here we go haha. thanks any info or suggestions would be great

**daem** · 09-14-2008, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by koozy

whatsup before i get started let me just say this is for a friend of mine who isn not a memeber...i know i know not believable but so be it thats the situation.. he wanted me to ask you guys if a 10 week sust 250 cycle would ok to do, with pct 4 weeks of nolva and 3 weeks of clomid... anyone have any suggestions if anything else is needed or that would help. once again this is not for me a pal asked me to do him a favor so here we go haha. thanks any info or suggestions would be great

Why doesn't "your friend" just join the ****ing board and post his question?

Do you hold his pecker when he pees, too?

Seriously, this shit makes me madder than anything on these boards..."Durrrr, my friend blah blah blah...."

**koozy** · 09-14-2008, 10:45 PM

god forbid i do a favor for a buddy of mine.. sure he could have made his own but he asked me so i did it, but he shud have to make u happy i guess.. i dnt see the difference but whatever. you have any suggestions or what u just stopped by to seem like a badass on a forum..

**Auss11e** · 09-14-2008, 10:54 PM

Were gonna need some stats on your friend.

Age:
weight:
Height:
Diet:
Cycle Experience:
How long lifting etc.

Most people will say that if it's his first cycle he shouldn't use sust but just plain test as the different compounds in sust would make it hard to pinpoint the cause of any side effects, however i used sust @ 500mg p/w for my first and luckily had no probs.
Hope this helps a little!

**daem** · 09-14-2008, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by koozy

u just stopped by to seem like a badass on a forum..

You figured me out! I totally posted just to seem like a badass on a forum.

Here's some advice...Use the search button...There are hundreds of threads about Sustanon .

**koozy** · 09-15-2008, 08:24 AM

Age: 23
weight: 165
Height: 5'8''
Diet: steak chicken rice potatoes toast fruit protein oatmeal...hes been on a diet for a month or so he says he takes in about 3000 calories daily
Cycle Experience: this wud be his first, sust is what he can get and hes stubborn and wont wait..
How long lifting: 6 years total, first 4 years on and off, last 2 more serious, lifting hard 4-5 days a week maxing out on bench at around 250-260

***ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*** · 09-15-2008, 08:29 AM

Daem calm down thats way too extreme. There could be a million reasons he cannot post here. 10 weeks of sust is fine. If you have nolva on hand no need for the clomid. Run the nolva still for the 4 weeks in dosages of 40/40/20/20. Start the pct 3 weeks after last sust shot.

**Swifto** · 09-15-2008, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by daem

Why doesn't "your friend" just join the ****ing board and post his question?

Do you hold his pecker when he pees, too?

Seriously, this shit makes me madder than anything on these boards..."Durrrr, my friend blah blah blah...."

Bad day?

**skinnykenney** · 09-15-2008, 09:56 AM

since sust has decca should he be using nolva during his cycle or for pct?
i hear nolva while in decca can cause gyno

**LATS60** · 09-15-2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by koozy

whatsup before i get started let me just say this is for a friend of mine who isn not a memeber...i know i know not believable but so be it thats the situation.. he wanted me to ask you guys if a 10 week sust 250 cycle would ok to do, with pct 4 weeks of nolva and 3 weeks of clomid... anyone have any suggestions if anything else is needed or that would help. once again this is not for me a pal asked me to do him a favor so here we go haha. thanks any info or suggestions would be great

I'll leave it to the others for all the Q's
Yes it's an ok cycle and PCT, it's sensible, nice one.

**steropower** · 09-15-2008, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by daem

Why doesn't "your friend" just join the ****ing board and post his question?

Do you hold his pecker when he pees, too?

Seriously, this shit makes me madder than anything on these boards..."Durrrr, my friend blah blah blah...."

**koozy** · 09-15-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by skinnykenney

since sust has decca should he be using nolva during his cycle or for pct?
i hear nolva while in decca can cause gyno

i was told earlier to take the nolva 3 weeks after his last injection and run it for 4 weeks, hes not going to be taking it during

**LATS60** · 09-15-2008, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by koozy

i was told earlier to take the nolva 3 weeks after his last injection and run it for 4 weeks, hes not going to be taking it during

Thats fine mate.

**koozy** · 09-15-2008, 12:53 PM

nfortunately, Sustanon will also do all of the bad things that any form of testosterone is known for:

It will convert to the female hormone estrogen (via a mechanism known as aromatization) by the (you guessed it) aromatize enzyme. Excessive estrogen can lead to unwanted side effects, such as acne, the growth of breast tissue (gynecomastia ), fat gain and reduced fat breakdown, loss of sex drive, testicular shrinkage and water retention.

also... what are the chances of any of these happening if taken the way i layed it out?

**WARMachine** · 09-15-2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by koozy

Age: 23
weight: 165
Height: 5'8''
Diet: steak chicken rice potatoes toast fruit protein oatmeal...hes been on a diet for a month or so he says he takes in about 3000 calories daily
Cycle Experience: this wud be his first, sust is what he can get and hes stubborn and wont wait..
How long lifting: 6 years total, first 4 years on and off, last 2 more serious, lifting hard 4-5 days a week maxing out on bench at around 250-260

Youre friend is too small. He needs to put on at least 15lbs natural. 3000cals is not enough to properly grow. Tell "him" to check out the diet section.

Diet Section
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

Originally Posted by daem

Why doesn't "your friend" just join the ****ing board and post his question?

Do you hold his pecker when he pees, too?

Seriously, this shit makes me madder than anything on these boards..."Durrrr, my friend blah blah blah...."

DAEM MAD! DAEM SMASH!!!

**koozy** · 09-15-2008, 06:45 PM

lol his mind is made up im letting him do what he wants i just want him to do it right. but under steroid profiles it says:

Unfortunately, Sustanon will also do all of the bad things that any form of testosterone is known for:

It will convert to the female hormone estrogen (via a mechanism known as aromatization) by the (you guessed it) aromatize enzyme. Excessive estrogen can lead to unwanted side effects, such as acne, the growth of breast tissue (gynecomastia ), fat gain and reduced fat breakdown, loss of sex drive, testicular shrinkage and water retention.

.... how often do these occur, and ill it happen if taken properly with the pct 3 weeks after injection

**Phate** · 09-15-2008, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by koozy

lol his mind is made up im letting him do what he wants i just want him to do it right. but under steroid profiles it says:

Unfortunately, Sustanon will also do all of the bad things that any form of testosterone is known for:

It will convert to the female hormone estrogen (via a mechanism known as aromatization) by the (you guessed it) aromatize enzyme. Excessive estrogen can lead to unwanted side effects, such as acne, the growth of breast tissue (gynecomastia ), fat gain and reduced fat breakdown, loss of sex drive, testicular shrinkage and water retention.

.... how often do these occur, and ill it happen if taken properly with the pct 3 weeks after injection

it depends on gyno prone he is, and the higher his bf is the more sides he will have, i agree that he should cut down and put on about 15lbs natural first

have him write down his diet with how much he eats and when he eats and post it in the diet forum and i'll critique it for him

**green22** · 09-16-2008, 08:25 AM

your "friend", give me a break dude.

**redz** · 09-16-2008, 10:50 AM

since sust has decca should he be using nolva during his cycle or for pct?
i hear nolva while in decca can cause gyno

There is no deca in sustanon .

**koozy** · 09-16-2008, 11:05 AM

yah isnt sust combo of 4 tests..

**warchild** · 09-16-2008, 11:55 AM

is your friend really you?

**LATS60** · 09-16-2008, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by redz

There is no deal in sustanon.

I think he may be referring to deca , as the longest ester in sust, it's an abbreviation for decanoate.

**paulzane** · 09-16-2008, 12:40 PM

Sust is fine as a first time use but if your "friend" can get some Proviron (50mg ED} then the gyno should not be a problem.

**koozy** · 09-16-2008, 02:11 PM

lol it really is a friend im not gonna do anything right now ive been researching for a few weeks and im gona keep doing it until i feel comfortable with what im gonna do