Introsting thread! My Cusin and cycles.

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 09:52 AM

I JUST WANT SOME FEED BACK SO I CAN PRINT THIS OUT AND LET HIM READ IT.

His first cycle he was ecstatic about doing a cycle, while I was waiting for my, he had already bought his cycle, he explained to me for 1 viel of Test and small box of Pct chit. He got that at a price that was so damn ridicules. When my package arrived and he noticed how much more items I got for the amount that he paid, and my amount was les than his, he said, WOW!.

So, he asked me if I can pin him, I said yes, but first off, “you don’t have enough for a 12 weeks cycle, you only have enough for 5 weeks”; if he was to run it at 500 a week.

He said, f it, I’ll have you do 250 a week, I encouraged him to just wait for some more that I will get him, He was so damn eager to do this we started at the same time, I had 6viels just perfect for my cycle and he only had 1 lousy viel..

We started our cycle and on the first week he said he was feeling the aggression and strength, I told him it’s the placebo effect, you wont feel nothing till the 5 or 6th week, which he didn’t even have enough. So because he decided to run his cycle at 250 a week, he though it would give him 10 weeks of good soled gains,

Anyways, he finished his cycle and was a bit disappointed because he had to stop with not so much gains.

NOW, he wants to do a Tren only cycle, and I can imagine how he will dose it and run it. The problem is, he’s getting all his information from J-Cat’s over at Gold’s Gym and they’re feeding him all this information about his cycles and growing bigger. But, THEY ARE NOT TELLING HIM HE NEEDS TO DO A GOOD PCT.

After talking with him numerous times about how he should run his cycles and I will help him with getting the amount and etc. he still continues to be stubborn and not listen

So how good will a Tren only cycle be for him

His stats are I think

21 years
185 lbs
body fat is I know a bit high
First cycle was test e 250 a week for 10 weeks, and no good pct
He did no blood work
During cycle ate like hamburgers and shit

What’s you thoughts?

P.S

In other words, he would rather get lousy information then to listen to me on this. I explained to him I have a wealth of information with these bro's on this forum, I know a good deal of info. "just listin to me fool"

**redz** · 09-18-2008, 09:55 AM

Well tell him if he really wishes to be impotent there are easier ways. Tren only will cause a total loss of labedo. Why doesnt he just do a higher test dose for 12 weeks with a good pct?

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by redz

Well tell him if he really wishes to be impotent there are easier ways. Tren only will cause a total loss of labedo. Why doesnt he just do a higher test dose for 12 weeks with a good pct?

Because he lacks the neurotransmitters. lol

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 10:02 AM

I wouldn't fight it bro.. seriously! If his mindset is already set at doing this, he won't listen no matter how hard you try to convince him that he will be doing more harm than helping himself by juicing... I would do some search on here and print out those threads where younger users fvck themselves up because they did not want to listen but were ecstatic about doing their first ever (WRONG) cycle!

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by breakbones

Because he lacks the neurotransmitters. lol

ha!!

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by "Maximus"

I wouldn't fight it bro.. seriously! If his mindset is already set at doing this, he won't listen no matter how hard you try to convince him that he will be doing more harm than helping himself by juicing... I would do some search on here and print out those threads where younger users fvck themselves up because they did not want to listen but were ecstatic about doing their first ever (WRONG) cycle!

Very true. The reason his mind set is like this, is because I has no patients, I told him I could get what he wants and for a much cheeper ?
butg because he wants it right now! right Now!, he chooses to pay an arm and leg for dumb stuff.

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 10:15 AM

More info please, I'm going to be printing this out so that he can be informed not just by me, but by other that are more knowledgeable than me

**WARMachine** · 09-18-2008, 10:50 AM

Tren only is a horrible cycle...

What does he expect to get out of it? Besides no sex life?

At the very least you need Test with it.

The first cycle he did was a wash for sure.

It sounds like this guy is looking for the easy way to gain. You said he has high teens BF%? Thats a no no right there.

Then to top to off, hes eating hamburgers and crap? WTF?

Then no PCT.

Im sorry to tell you bro, your cousin sounds like a moron.

Thats like the worst things you can do and hes doing them all.

If i were his cousin, i would NOT let him cycle again until those things are corrected.

He needs to drop to a minimum 12%BF.
Get a high protein low fat diet w/ 4000kals ED.
And he needs to make natural gains until that point.

Just my .02

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Tren only is a horrible cycle...

What does he expect to get out of it? Besides no sex life?

At the very least you need Test with it.

The first cycle he did was a wash for sure.

It sounds like this guy is looking for the easy way to gain. You said he has high teens BF%? Thats a no no right there.

Then to top to off, hes eating hamburgers and crap? WTF?

Then no PCT.

Im sorry to tell you bro, your cousin sounds like a moron.

Thats like the worst things you can do and hes doing them all.

If i were his cousin, i would NOT let him cycle again until those things are corrected.

He needs to drop to a minimum 12%BF.
Get a high protein low fat diet w/ 4000kals ED.
And he needs to make natural gains until that point.

Just my .02

THANK YOU, IT'S ALL TRUE
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**WARMachine** · 09-18-2008, 11:31 AM

Lol...

Yeah print this and show it to him for sure...

Hes making a huge mistake cycling the way he is...

If youre a good cousin youd break his arm so he cant lift if he attempts to start this dumb cycle.

**breakbones** · 09-18-2008, 11:36 AM

LOL

I try to tell him over and over to hold on, wait till you have enough for a full cycle, but not just that, because he did a first cycle that was lousy, I informed him he should redue the cycle but at a normal dose and lenght.