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**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 12:24 PM

This is my next proposed cycle:
Weeks 1-15 Test e 500mgs/wk
Weeks 1-13 Deca 450/wk
Weeks 1-6 Dbol 40mgs/day
Weeks 1-6 Tren Ace 75mgs/day

From what I understand it would be ok to start with the tren ace because the deca won’t kick in till after the tren is out of my system. If this is wrong please inform me. I am also considering adding prop 50mgs/ed for the first six weeks. I know it is advanced, Im just wondering if there are any serious health risks I should know about. Thanks guys

**Freakish** · 09-18-2008, 12:26 PM

what are your stats bro?thats a serious cycle

**WARMachine** · 09-18-2008, 12:28 PM

Id say drop the Tren ...

2 19nors on top of youd have to pin that ED anyway...

Seems hardly worth it for that particualr cycle.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 12:30 PM

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**Freakish** · 09-18-2008, 12:33 PM

how many cycles have you done?

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 12:35 PM

one
weeks 1-12 Test e 500mgs/wk
weeks 6-12 winny 50mgs/ed
weeks 1-6 clen and t3

**WARMachine** · 09-18-2008, 12:37 PM

Again i would drop the Tren ...

Doesnt seem worth it...

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 12:39 PM

Do you mean not worth pinning ed? or dealing with the sides of tren ?

**Freakish** · 09-18-2008, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Again i would drop the Tren ...

Doesnt seem worth it...

im gonna agree with war4btt here,thats a big cycle bro and you dont need that many compounds being that it is you second cycle,you'll get great results with the test,deca ,dbol ...as long as diet and training is spot on

**WARMachine** · 09-18-2008, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

Do you mean not worth pinning ed? or dealing with the sides of tren?

Both...

If you were doing a short ester cycle. Then i say Ace is the SH*T!! but since youre doing E/deca /dbol ... It seems pointless

I wouldnt mix 2 19nors. Thats asking for it.

Its doable though. I just wouldnt advise it.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 12:55 PM

Thanks for the quick responses guys! I have no problem with the pinning and Im confident I can deal with the sides from the tren alone. Knowing when the deca sides will kick in is my question. Does anyone know about running the tren ace and stopping before the deca kicks in? Will the deca give me sides before week eight? I got nothing from my last test e cycle until week seven. It seems to work out in my head but I would like to hear from someone with experiences.

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 01:20 PM

that cycle will run you some $$$$$$... but looks solid never the less!

Like BT said, drop the Tren or Deca ... no need for two 19nors unless you know what you're doing and have your arse cover while on cycle and on PCT for sides/progesterone.

**Freakish** · 09-18-2008, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by "Maximus"

that cycle will run you some $$$$$$... but looks solid never the less!

Like BT said, drop the Tren or Deca... no need for two 19nors unless you know what you're doing and have your arse cover while on cycle and on PCT for sides/progesterone.

so you decided to stop whoring about? lol

**Dukkit** · 09-18-2008, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

Thanks for the quick responses guys! I have no problem with the pinning and Im confident I can deal with the sides from the tren alone. Knowing when the deca sides will kick in is my question. Does anyone know about running the tren ace and stopping before the deca kicks in? Will the deca give me sides before week eight? I got nothing from my last test e cycle until week seven. It seems to work out in my head but I would like to hear from someone with experiences.

as long as you have the proper items on hand, sides shouldnt be a problem. runnin tren ace for the first 4-6 weeks while on deca is doable and will work. but really... since your planning on running the d-bol... you dont need all those compounds at one time. stick with deca, test, d-bol. and deca sides arent extreme other then deca dick. which IMO is the worst. (been there, done that... USE CABER!!)
the sides you will get will be bloating, maybe some acne, a tinge of hairloss. but use some arimidex , nizoral... youll be good. thats even if you get sides. everyone is different. when i run deca i dont get sides. i had deca dick once and got on caber and it was fixed.

**Dukkit** · 09-18-2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by "Maximus"

that cycle will run you some $$$$$$... but looks solid never the less!

Like BT said, drop the Tren or Deca ... no need for two 19nors unless you know what you're doing and have your arse cover while on cycle and on PCT for sides/progesterone.

caber and letro are a must

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 01:38 PM

I have cabar, adex, nolva, and clomid. I do not have letro. I was planning on using the cabar and adex during cycle if any problems arise. What do you think? Thanks duk

**Dukkit** · 09-18-2008, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

I have cabar, adex, nolva, and clomid. I do not have letro. I was planning on using the cabar and adex during cycle if any problems arise. What do you think? Thanks duk

well since its only your second cycle and your doses arent to high. you should be fine with what you have. but to drop a few tens on a bottle of letro is always worth it IMO.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 01:45 PM

I will try and see if I can pick some up, my guy doesn’t offer letro is the only problem. Do you think I will be ok with the tren and dbol without a test active in my system for the first few weeks? That is why I considered running the low dose prop.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 01:51 PM

I saw you looking big, why didn’t you comment? I like it when bros with special colored names post in my threads hahaha

**Freakish** · 09-18-2008, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

I saw you looking big, why didn’t you comment? I like it when bros with special colored names post in my threads hahaha

lmao

**Dukkit** · 09-18-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

I will try and see if I can pick some up, my guy doesn’t offer letro is the only problem. Do you think I will be ok with the tren and dbol without a test active in my system for the first few weeks? That is why I considered running the low dose prop.

you need test! always!!

either get some prop for those few weeks or just wait till you get all you need

**Dukkit** · 09-18-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

I will try and see if I can pick some up, my guy doesn’t offer letro is the only problem. Do you think I will be ok with the tren and dbol without a test active in my system for the first few weeks? That is why I considered running the low dose prop.

there are a 100 research chem companies online that sell letro for cheap and it works.

look around

**Freakish** · 09-18-2008, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw

there are a 100 research chem companies online that sell letro for cheap and it works.

look around

infact just look up.....23cm up and 23cm to the right(from the middle of the screen ofcourse)

**Dukkit** · 09-18-2008, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Freakish

infact just look up.....23cm up and 23cm to the right(from the middle of the screen ofcourse)

exactly.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 02:04 PM

So i guess ill add the Prop @50mgs/day for the first six weeks and find some letro. Thanks again duk

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

So i guess ill add the Prop @50mgs/day for the first six weeks and find some letro. Thanks again duk

yes sir... you should!!! however, why the rush for such an advanced cycle??? I guess is offtopic, but wouldn't you like to do a test deca cycle.. tren is too harsh, imo, for a second cycle!

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 02:16 PM

Im home brewing the tren and really want to try it. After all I have seen and heard about tren I cant wait to try it. Npp would probably be a better choice in this cycle but its just not an option.

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 02:20 PM

lol... you're brewing home made tren ??? not wonder why the rush... hell, even myself would feel tempted at doing it! just be careful man... you should have had a few cycles under your belt before you start messing w/tren.

**"Maximus"** · 09-18-2008, 02:21 PM

oh, btw... do you mind sharing some of that juice??? lol

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 02:24 PM

I just figure if the deca is gonna shut me down I cant get anymore shut down so why not kickstart with tren and get the most out of this cycle as I can since I wont be able to go back on for like 5 to 6 months.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by "Maximus"

oh, btw... do you mind sharing some of that juice??? lol

HAHAHA, not a chance im too greedy

**smokeyd** · 09-18-2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by bobo0101

I just figure if the deca is gonna shut me down I cant get anymore shut down so why not kickstart with tren and get the most out of this cycle as I can since I wont be able to go back on for like 5 to 6 months.

yeah i dont see why it would be a bad idea, but i agree with one its going to be expensive, two its really advanced, thats 5 compounds lol

**10nispro** · 09-18-2008, 03:11 PM

This may be way off what you want to do but did you consider

wk 1-4 dbol 40mg
wk 1-12 test e 500mg
wk 1-11 deca 400mg
wk 13-16 prop 50mg/d
wk 13-16 tren a 75mg/d

That would allow him to start his pct earlier if I am looking at it correctly and he gets to use the home brew and kickstart the cycle.

**10nispro** · 09-18-2008, 03:13 PM

sorry messed up on the weeks on the 19nors.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 03:19 PM

thats an idea 10nispro, but i do want to run the deca for 13 weeks seeing as thats how much of it i have. another variation of this cycle would wait and start the dbol at week six instead of week one. any thoughts on that
weeks 1-6 prop50mgs/ed
weeks 1-6 tren ace 75mgs/ed
weeks 1-15 test e 500mgs/wk
weeks 1-13 deca 450/wk
weeks 7-12 dbol 50mgs/ed

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by 10nispro

sorry messed up on the weeks on the 19nors.

yeah i was going to be nice and not mention that part, thanks for trying to help though

**inky-e** · 09-18-2008, 04:15 PM

I'd pick one or the other but not both tren /deca .

**MercyDog** · 09-18-2008, 04:49 PM

I've ran that exact cycle with drol instead of dbol , and started with prop (4 weeks), all at higher doses and loved it. I don't feel thats advanced or over doing it at all with those doses. I think you'll be very happy.

**bobo0101** · 09-18-2008, 05:25 PM

That is the best news I have heard in a while bro!!! I have wanted to hear from someone with first hand experience. You just made my day bro thanks alot Mercy