Propionate And Winnie

[07tundra]

My friend is starting this cycle. He has 20cc of both. How often and dosage should he take. This is his first cycle. He is wanting to cut. I think both are 100mg to a cc. Also would just nova be enough for the pct.

[redz]

He only has enough to do a very short cycle. Needs more as well, He could inject 50mg ed of test and 50mg ed of winstrol until he runs out but hte winny will only last half way in my opinion he neesd more before starting.

[jstraw428]

What are "YOUR" stats, I mean your "Friends" stats??????

age??
weight??
height???
bf%???
lifting experience????

Why are you asking questions for your friend?

[jstraw428]

Lets get his stats first....before we start recommending things....

[07tundra]

My stats are 6'5 200 pds. I've done 2 cycles. (1st Enath., 2nd Sust and deca ). I can not keep the weight on. I want to bulk. So help if you can. I can get about anything.

The guy is my lady's cousin. He has aggrav. me for a year to get him stuff. I would not. I don't know his training. He works out at his house. Some how he got the prop and winnie. So I said I would find out. I have never thought about a cutting cycle for myself. So don't know much about it. He is about 5'10, 240pds, 26yrs. From the looks, he has no diet or a very good workout.

["Maximus"]

well, yours must be on another thread... well, not really but this is about your friend's right?

Well, if your friend has no solid diet and not a very good workout... that cycle is gonna be a waste!

What about for PCT? do you know what he has for PCT or has planned for PCT or IF HE has PCT whatsoever lol??? damn, I feel like one of those interrogators sobs..

thx (puts coffee down and steps away from the dark room)
just adding a little bit of drama to the whole thing..

[jstraw428]

I think both of you need to reevaluate your diet and training......You are 6'5 and only 200lbs and your buddy is 5'10 and 240(which i am sure is mostly fat) Why not check out our diet and training forums.......Maybe you could start training together nd help each other do it naturally.....

["Maximus"]

+^^^ 2nd that!

[07tundra]

I am going to do my cycle 1st of Jan. So I will start asking then. I am sorry about the drama. Guess it is not as easy I thought it would be. Yea between us I think it will be a waste, but hey he has and don't care about the money I guess. I have some nova left over I was going to give him.

["Maximus"]

nah, it's ok bro.. a bit of drama is not bad at all!

nolva only for PCT is not a wise choice for a test/winny cycle.. jfyi!

[07tundra]

How about Nova and Clomid. Or any other suggestions. I really don't think he will take it serious. Oh yea he is scared of needels too. It will be interesting to see how long he does it.

[jstraw428]

ed injections, and he is scared of needles.....yeah, good luck with that....

[Ashop]

My friend is starting this cycle. He has 20cc of both. How often and dosage should he take. This is his first cycle. He is wanting to cut. I think both are 100mg to a cc. Also would just nova be enough for the pct.

100mg TEST PROP EOD 8-10 WKS
50-100mg WINSTROL DAILY OR EOD 1-4 WKS
USE AN AI for estrogen control.
DONT FORGET PCT AFTER CYCLE.

[Lemonada8]

^^ id reccomment 50mg ed for better blood levels

["Maximus"]

I would stay away from a half-assed cycle like that bro.. no bashin on both of you, but if you're going to do this at least do it right... I bet he doesn't even have enough for both of you (unless you put the other half or complete the cycle)... but that's not really what's important, the most important factor here is the PCT and none of you guys have thought about that... seriously! in my book, that is a half-assed cycle!

[07tundra]

Im not doing this cycle. What he has is for him only. I will get him a PCT. But like I said before I have never done a cuting cycle so I don't know much about it. THats why I am asking about the dosage and pct for him.

[jstraw428]

You can cut on any cycle....it all comes down to diet.........

I have a buddy who cuts using anadrol ........