Advise on my second cyle

**WARMachine** · 09-24-2008, 04:05 PM

Cool... Careful with the delt injections... 2ml is the most ive ever done there...

**RaidenL** · 09-24-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Cool... Careful with the delt injections... 2ml is the most ive ever done there...

i used to do 2.5ml of equipoise on the delt injections. First 2 injection hurt abit. But then it was all fine.

Only had trouble with my R quad. Did 1 injection of winstrol and coulden walk for 8 days straigt

**RaidenL** · 09-25-2008, 03:32 PM

Today i was talking to someone about the cycle. And he told me he's not a big fan of using prop for a whole cycle. Reason why is, he said its harder to keep the muscle then if you where to use enth. Looked a bit wierd at him. But i tought maybe he is right so my question here is... Is he right or wrong

**DS21** · 09-25-2008, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by RaidenL

Today i was talking to someone about the cycle. And he told me he's not a big fan of using prop for a whole cycle. Reason why is, he said its harder to keep the muscle then if you where to use enth. Looked a bit wierd at him. But i tought maybe he is right so my question here is... Is he right or wrong

That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You can keep most if not all of the size you gain with a good pct, training and rest. If anything you would lose more size coming off enth, due to the more water you retain.

**RaidenL** · 09-25-2008, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by DS21

That has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You can keep most if not all of the size you gain with a good pct, training and rest. If anything you would lose more size coming off enth, due to the more water you retain.

Thank you DS21 glad thats out of my mind now

**RaidenL** · 10-01-2008, 06:23 AM

Hello everyone agian.

Tought of it and am going for the prop tren combination.

cycle will go as follow

wk 1-10 test p 100mg EOD (50mg ED)
wk 1-10 tren a 75mg EOD

HCG
wk 8 2x 500iu
wk 9 2x 500iu
wk10 2x 500iu
wk11 2x 500iu

PCT 3 days after last injection
4 weeks nolva 40mg
what would u advise aromasin or provirion. I was thinking of using arimidex (0.5mg) during the cycle

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 12:32 PM

Dude!!! Have you listened to anything ive said?

If you are doing Ace and Prop PIN EVERY SINGLE DAY!

And STOP Tren use two weeks prior to ending Test.

PCT needs
1-4 Nolvadex @ 20mgs ED
1-4 Aromasin or Proviron @ 50mgs ED
1-4 Clomid @ 25mgs ED (This is optional)

Also have Letro on hand during cycle. Tren or Deca , be safe, use Letro!

**RaidenL** · 10-01-2008, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Dude!!! Have you listened to anything ive said?

If you are doing Ace and Prop PIN EVERY SINGLE DAY!

And STOP Tren use two weeks prior to ending Test.

PCT needs
1-4 Nolvadex @ 20mgs ED
1-4 Aromasin or Proviron @ 50mgs ED
1-4 Clomid @ 25mgs ED (This is optional)

Also have Letro on hand during cycle. Tren or Deca, be safe, use Letro!

Thank you War,

What if i instead of 100mg prop EOD do 50mg ED will that make a big difference, same goes for tren instead of 1ml am taking 0.5 of both ED

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 05:25 PM

Thats fine... Id start with 50mgs if i were you... 75mgs of Each ED is optimal...

**RaidenL** · 10-01-2008, 05:58 PM

thank you i have learned alot here.
Will do some research on letro never looked into it.

what advise can you give me on it war,

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 06:23 PM

Its nice to have on hand when using Tren or Deca .

Letro is very strong, it prevents estrogen conversion, also reduces progesterone/Prolactin. also can reverse gyno. its best on cycle cause when you stop there can be a hard estrogen rebound. the best way to handle this is stopping letro the day before pct, so all the pct drugs handle the rebound.

F.Y.I. Letro is a bad choice for PCT due to the aforementioned estrogen rebound.

**RaidenL** · 10-01-2008, 06:34 PM

so war, should i take letro ED or only start using it if i get signs of gyno (sorry for asking this question now.. researching now wile am asking this question to)

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 07:35 PM

Well if you are concerned about sides, start right away...

**RaidenL** · 10-03-2008, 02:10 AM

So everyone i have been doing some more research and notice that a prop & ace cycle are mostly use for cutting. I am not planning to cut down but mostly try to get as much lean mass as possible.

So still i am wondering is the prop ace cycle the best option for me or should i think of something els.

Again the frequent injecting is not a problem

**WARMachine** · 10-03-2008, 01:16 PM

That is a lean mass cycle... I forgot, is this your first cycle? Or just first time with Tren ?

You can gain or cut on almost any drug bro, it all depends on training and diet...

**RaidenL** · 10-03-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

That is a lean mass cycle... I forgot, is this your first cycle? Or just first time with Tren ?

You can gain or cut on almost any drug bro, it all depends on training and diet...

then war. Dont think i have any question anymore. This is not my first cyle but my first time with tren

Question on letro
do you think 0.625 E3D is ok?