winny or var for weeks 10-14???

**daniel_3855** · 09-28-2008, 04:27 AM

not sure what to use.

cycle:
test e 1-12 weeks
dbol 1-4
var or winny??? 10-14, reason for this stack is to try and cut a liitle bf near end of cycle???

also if i was to add prov ed for hole cycle would i loose any mass. as i wanted to use it to keep water down just in case of gyno.

**anabolictonic** · 09-28-2008, 05:07 AM

id use arimidex instead of proviron mate - use proviron as an AI in ur pct if u want. .5mg adex eod is what id do to keep water down. AI's dont inhibit your gains on cycle just SERMS like nolvadex .

if price isnt an issue go with the var - will add slightly more mass than the winny .. note neither will put on that much mass at all but winnie less than var - and var is safer and easier on joints

**darr** · 09-28-2008, 05:22 AM

I use provion in every cycle ive ever done it keeps the mussles rock hard + it free flows your test & its a good ai.Imo go with the var 80mg day you will be rock solite!!!

**daniel_3855** · 09-28-2008, 05:25 AM

cool cant get arimidex so its got to be prov. what dose should i run?? so it wont kill any mass???? just stop bloat???

**daniel_3855** · 09-28-2008, 05:50 AM

i can get hold of nolva, clomid and prov

so whats the best to run with hole cycle and at what dose to keep bloat down?????

**Freakish** · 09-28-2008, 05:52 AM

use proviron at 50md ed...works great for me

**daniel_3855** · 09-28-2008, 05:55 AM

looks like prov is the way to go then.

dont think i can afford 50 ed for hole cycle, would 25 ed do? or 50ed for last half of cycle???

**Freakish** · 09-28-2008, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

looks like prov is the way to go then.

dont think i can afford 50 ed for hole cycle, would 25 ed do? or 50ed for last half of cycle???

yeah it can cost some serious dosh,id definitely do 50mg ed for the lata half of the cycle...thats what i do

**daniel_3855** · 09-28-2008, 06:26 AM

thanks bud, so would the prov help against gyno??

**Freakish** · 09-28-2008, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

thanks bud, so would the prov help against gyno??

yes to a certain degree,but if you are gyno prone just keep an AI on hand just encase

**daniel_3855** · 09-28-2008, 06:40 AM

whats the best ai mate can only get prov nolva or clomid???

**Freakish** · 09-28-2008, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by daniel_3855

i can get hold of nolva, clomid and prov

bro none of those are AI,wel proviron acts kinda like one but isnt,your best bet if thats all you can get is if you start to feel your nipples getting sensitive use nolva at 20mg ed till it goes away,its not ideal as it will also hinder gains but its your best option