Second Cycle

**tard_zone** · 09-29-2008, 12:09 AM

Hey guys I am coming to the end of my first cycle. Here is what it looked like:

Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg/week for 10 weeks
Arimidex .25 mg eod

I have my last shot tomorrow and I know it will still be active for almost 2 weeks after then I will be starting my PCT. I put on about 10 pounds from starting and there is still room for more growth. On top of the 10 pounds I've went up on the weight scale, I've leaned out so LBM increase quite a bit. This was my first cycle. I will be picking up for my second cycle even tho I will not be startin for a while. And while on the topic if I do time on = time off, does that mean I have to wait 10 weeks after my last shot or 10 weeks after my pct? More imporantly I am picking up my gear because I will save lots if I order with my bud, making it a higher price order plus his prices are low right now and I want to take advantage of that. So here is what I have planned, Im hoping i will get some insight on the length and doses.

Week 1-3/6: Dianabol @ 30/40 mg/day
Week 1-12/14: Deca Durabolin @ 400/500 mg/week
Week 1-14/16: Testosterone Enanthate /Cypionate @ 500/750 mg week
Week 1-16/18: Letrozole /Arimidex @ .25 mg/day

Thanks guys, I'll be plannin PCT after my cycle is completed. Im thinkin about Nolva/Clomid/HCG . Not sure if that will be too much or too little and I've never tried HCG. But anyway I want to get the cycle figured out then I will do my PCT, thanks again.

Also would Letro be good to run that long, I've read it's pretty potent and should be used for short term, which is why I was considering arimidex as a replacement.

**blake.varhaug** · 09-29-2008, 12:25 AM

since its only your second cycle id keep the test at 500...youll still get good gains... I also wouldnt run it so long? what are your stats? training exp?

**fit4ever180** · 09-29-2008, 12:43 AM

time off should = length of cycle + pct

you should be off more than 10 weeks imo

test e takes roughly 14 days to metabolize, so start pct at 14 days after your last injection

**tard_zone** · 09-29-2008, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by fit4ever180

time off should = length of cycle + pct

you should be off more than 10 weeks imo

test e takes roughly 14 days to metabolize, so start pct at 14 days after your last injection

Ya from what I've read, the majority said cycle + pct, but few sources said just cycle was fine.

Also i'm aware it takes 2 weeks for the test to taper down, and still havnt started my pct.

**tard_zone** · 09-29-2008, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by blake.varhaug

since its only your second cycle id keep the test at 500...youll still get good gains... I also wouldnt run it so long? what are your stats? training exp?

So i'll keep the test at 500 mg. How about the doses with the other compounds. 5'7" 205 pounds w/low bf%. 4 years of training and 3 years of diet, didnt realize diet until a useless year of training. This is my first cycle and wanted to see how my body responds to just test solo. Now that I know how it responds to 500 mg, I figure dbol and deca can both be added. Because I can distinguish what results i get from dbol and deca, because dbol will be my initial gains and deca will not be until later in the cycle. Also i was thinking about maybe substituting EQ in for deca, but not sure.

Anyone else have input for doses and length??

**fit4ever180** · 09-30-2008, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by tard_zone

Ya from what I've read, the majority said cycle + pct, but few sources said just cycle was fine.

Also i'm aware it takes 2 weeks for the test to taper down, and still havnt started my pct.

That's true you may be fine with doing time on= time off... Everyone's different, so everyone reacts differently, but it is your first cycle, so I'd rather be safe than sorry... No one knows your body better than you though... Just my.02

**tard_zone** · 10-01-2008, 01:13 PM

So any one else have some input for this cycle. Would test and tren be too much for a second cycle, since i've already done test and just add tren?

**WARMachine** · 10-01-2008, 01:20 PM

Tren or Deca is too much for a second cycle IMO...

But to eaches own...

Show me what youre thinking of running. Include PCT... Ill give you my opinion.

**tard_zone** · 10-01-2008, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by war4BTT

Tren or Deca is too much for a second cycle IMO...

But to eaches own...

Show me what youre thinking of running. Include PCT... Ill give you my opinion.

Hey man thanks for some imput, I've researched and am stuck and want some advice. But anyway, for my second cycle if I did go the deca/dbol /test way, the only new steroids i would be using would be dbol and deca. dbol will provide initial gains and deca will be later on in the cycle. The only reason I've heard for slowly building your cycles is to figure out how you respond to certain compounds, but i will be able to distinguish between dbol and deca easily and already know how i respond to test. The only reasons i threw tren into the idea was because, if i did tren i would only do test and tren which would mean only introducing one new compound, which is what seems to be generally accepted as a rule.

I will send you a message or just put my pct in here, but depending what I do will change my pct so I want to get the cycle down first with length and dose, then pct starts being constructed.