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    2nd Prop shot today, the pain is no joke.

    I took my first shot yesterday of prop, and it was not pleasant. Oh how I wish it was painless, but I guess it requires nuts to pin prop everyday. So oh well....

    My question is if 5/8's inch needles are ok for everything except glutes?

    Im looking to rotate my shots as follows,

    R Delt, L Delt, R Glute, Left Glute, and my last 2 are up in the air. I have no problem with needles so any suggestions that are the least painless would be greatly appreciated.

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    5/8" is pretty short imo. Depends on the spot you are injecting 5/8" is definitely too short for quads.

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    it really depends on how lean you are. you can get away with 5/8 if your very lean
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    im about 9-10% bf right now

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    I am right about 9-10% bf....i use a 5/8 for my lower teardrops on my quad, my biceps, tris, and front delt.....I would say you need 1' for everything else...and 1.5 for glutes/hip....

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    Try injecting smaller amounts in multiple areas

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    how do you tell if the pin went deep enough when you inject? It the skin tender to the touch after?

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    What does your cycle look like, and what is your gear dosed at?

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    Weeks 1-7 Prop 75mg ED 200mg/ml

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    so your taking about 3/4ths of a cc ed?
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    you'll get used to the pain. prop always hurts to a degree but after a while its not that bad.

    i kind of like the pain in a way

    im on prop/tren right now shooting 1.5cc ed. its fun

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    no, im taking .375 of a cc. Its 200mg per CC, and im at 75mg ED.

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    I have pinned tren ed for 9 weeks and I began to like it also, so lets hope it ends up the same with prop.

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    Get some sterile b-12 and mix it with the prop.

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    b-12 or some oil
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    what kind of oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT View Post
    b-12 or some oil
    I advise the oil, as the b-12 is water based and wound not be helping much if any

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    ^^^^^b-12 would work, why dont you think it would?

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    don't quote me on it too quick haha let me find some info i read about it
    ill copy/paste in a sec it could be false though not sure

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    I am pretty sure that b-12 does the same thing as the oil, it adds more ml to the injection, which would make the mg/ml less, therefore it should help ease the pain a bit...just think about it...

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    Cut your shots 50:50 with sterile filtered oil. If you want to use 50mg of Testosterone Propionate , and you have 100mg/mL Testosterone Propionate - pull 0.5mL of your test prop, and 0.5mL of sterile filtered oil to shoot 1mL of 50mg/mL Testosterone Propionate. This is the #1 best way.
    Dont bother with b-12, its water based- absorbed so quickly it will have little to no impact....giving props to One8nine for the literature hope you like it

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    anyone disagree?

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    189 definitely knows his stuff, but a lot of people have had a lot of sucess cutting gear with b-12

    I personally use sterile grapesed oil....if i have too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal View Post
    anyone disagree?
    I was on the phone with 189 just a second ago, and he agreed that b12 would not work, and to use sterile oil.....

    I stand corrected, sorry for my mishap.....

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    If I would use oil, it would be cotton seed. But i was concerned with the pin more so than the pain. How is it possible to tell if its not going deep enough? My skin is slightly raised for a while after injections. This was after my injection into my delts yesterday and today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&FGuy View Post
    If I would use oil, it would be cotton seed. But i was concerned with the pin more so than the pain. How is it possible to tell if its not going deep enough? My skin is slightly raised for a while after injections. This was after my injection into my delts yesterday and today.
    just use a 1 inch pin for all injections and 1.5 for glutes if you shoot them

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    I bought 5/8's for all and 1.5 for glutes lol. Im just not sure if the 5/8's is long enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstraw428 View Post
    I was on the phone with 189 just a second ago, and he agreed that b12 would not work, and to use sterile oil.....

    I stand corrected, sorry for my mishap.....
    oh it's cool bro I'm sure you know far more than I do.
    It's 189's wisdom behind my words. His vast knowledge is infinate

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    I use filter cottonseed oil, it does help a little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal View Post
    oh it's cool bro I'm sure you know far more than I do.
    It's 189's wisdom behind my words. His vast knowledge is infinate

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    Is it normal to have the skin raised after an injection? Its the next day and still raised.

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