Help with my new cycle...

**russian_rucker** · 11-13-2002, 03:18 PM

I'm 6'0 220lbs...i've been training for 6 years...i am ready to start my first cycle. Based upon my research I think I would like to go with

1-4 D-bol 30mg ED
1-10 Test Enanthate or Cyp 400mg
1-10 EQ 400mg
7-12 Winny 50mg ED
13-15 Clomid

Nolva on hand

I am trying to gain more muscle mass and more strength.
Will this cycle help my muscles look more cut also?
If not, what type of cycle will?
Any help that you all could give me would be highly appreciated.

**4plates** · 11-13-2002, 03:23 PM

looks good bro,nice cycle

**MBaraso** · 11-13-2002, 03:27 PM

Well researched. Goodluck :-)

**CaptainCaveMan** · 11-13-2002, 03:30 PM

I would bump the test to 500 but the rest looks nice. Make sure to have some liver protectants as well.

**Big Rush** · 11-13-2002, 04:02 PM

hey guys, this is a friend of mine and this is the cycle i recommended to him...i posted this for him just to reasure him that i've learned from the best

...oh ya, i will let him know about ALA and milkthistle, rest assured

**Big Rush** · 11-14-2002, 02:49 PM

bump

**Tsunami** · 11-14-2002, 03:01 PM

One minor change, everyone seems to make this mistake when doing this cycle.

Take winny from weeks 8-13, so that way Eq and winny will exit your system at the same time and you can start clomid right after the winny.

Otherwise cycle looks great, good luck.

**Big Rush** · 11-14-2002, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by Tsunami
One minor change, everyone seems to make this mistake when doing this cycle.

Take winny from weeks 8-13, so that way Eq and winny will exit your system at the same time and you can start clomid right after the winny.

Otherwise cycle looks great, good luck.

i belive it takes EQ 2 weeks to exit your system, correct? Pretty sure it's right...

***Pheedno*** · 11-14-2002, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Big Rush

i belive it takes EQ 2 weeks to exit your system, correct? Pretty sure it's right...

EQ is three weeks, Test is two weeks.
When running them both I would suggest starting clomid 2-1/2 wks out instead of three. In that case running the winny til 12 and starting clomid 2 days later would be right around 2-1/2 wks for post cycle start.

Or he could run the test 1wk longer(this is the best way) run the winny till 13 and start clomid 2wks after last test shot/3wks after last EQ.

**Tsunami** · 11-14-2002, 09:05 PM

Another question to ask is whether the winny he is taking is tabs or injectables?

Correct me if i'm wrong but when taken orally shouldn't clomid be taken 12 hours after the last dose of winny?

**russian_rucker** · 11-14-2002, 09:58 PM

The winny I am taking is injectable. I have heard, though, that you can just simply drink it instead of injecting it.

**Tsunami** · 11-14-2002, 11:05 PM

Yes you can drink it, if you decide to drink it I think you take the clomid 12 hours after the last time you drink it.

Bump for someone to correct me if i'm wrong.

**Big Rush** · 11-15-2002, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by russian_rucker

I am trying to gain more muscle mass and more strength.
Will this cycle help my muscles look more cut also?
If not, what type of cycle will?
Any help that you all could give me would be highly appreciated.

RR, generally people like to bulk up at the first part of their cycle, and cut down towards the end...it's all about your diet and cardio, the AS are just a "booster" so to speak. I would suggest you stick with the current cycle you have and maybe throw some Clenbuteral in during and after Clomid therapy, with an increase in cardio and a stricter, cleaner diet. If you want, you could start Clen when you start winny and run it all the way through Clomid and well after as well.

**Big Rush** · 11-15-2002, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by russian_rucker
The winny I am taking is injectable. I have heard, though, that you can just simply drink it instead of injecting it.

you will here different answers from different people on this one.

check out this post written by ajax...http://anabolicreview.com/vbulletin/...ighlight=winny

I personally got great results from drinking it...could they have been better? possibly, but I don't really know...it's basically a personal decision bro