Critique please

[sm15]

hey guys,
trying to put together a cycle for my buddy he is eager to get started and i asked him for more time to let me learn what i needed. he's not waiting (one of those). He's done a couple test & deca cycles before. Bout 5'10 175 or so. Low body fat %. The stuff he got was test enth, eq, and masteron . Here's what i've got for now i think it'll be good. Lemme know what you think.

week 1-12: 600 mg eq per week
week 1-16: 625 mg test per week
week 10-20: 400 mg masteron per week
arimidex at .25 mg eod
clomid and nolva starting 2 weeks after test ends.

how bout it fellas?

[Andro9]

sounds good to me. stats?

[Andro9]

wait... wk 10-20 masteron .. your running it 4 weeks alone

[sm15]

there in there bro
do i have that masteron set up right i've never used it?

[sm15]

should i go week 6-16

[BIG_TRUCK]

He's done more than one cycle and wanting to do a cycle that big is insane for someone who can achieve more size naturally than what his stats show.

Learn how to eat & train first.

[LuxuryTax]

IMO i hate arimidex cuts of my gains

[sm15]

i don't consider that a big cycle. Eq is weak. Everyone here recommends 500 mg per week of test for newbies. i've only got 625 set up. masteron sounds like a great drug as well.

[BIG_TRUCK]

i don't consider that a big cycle. Eq is weak. Everyone here recommends 500 mg per week of test for newbies. i've only got 625 set up. masteron sounds like a great drug as well.

EQ is a mild steroid you are correct. 1225mgs of aas at once , and a 20 week cycle is a big cycle for almost every casual aas user let alone one who is 5'10'' 175lbs.

He should be able to get up to 200lbs naturally, let alone for already running 2 test/deca cycles. What did he start out weighing 130lbs?

[sm15]

he was young and dumb. i didnt really hang with him then. I dont think he even knew what he was doing. i'm just trying to help him now

[BIG_TRUCK]

he was young and dumb. i didnt really hang with him then. I dont think he even knew what he was doing. i'm just trying to help him now

I gotcha, he's not the only one either who's done this.

He needs to train naturally for some time. He's addicted to aas and only thinks he can grow while 'on'. He needs to correct his training/diet & rest to build a better base for when he uses aas down the road. If you don't know how to train naturally, you will never be able to keep your gains you made on cycle.
Once he knows how to grow off cycle, he will be able to make better gains on cycle while maintaining these gains post cycle.

Also, his cycle is crazy. Make it simple. Test weeks 1-12 500mgs. Trust me that's MUCH MUCH more test than a normal body produces , so of course gains will come. People weighing 250lbs can make gains off 500mgs of test, so the dosage is not a problem.

Try to talk sense into him.... If he won't listen just let him go through with it. He will gain some lean mass on cycle look better, but post cycle he will be back were he started with alot of $ wasted.

[sm15]

well thats his choice and decision im just tryong to help as much as i can

[LuxuryTax]

if you gonna help him i would say try to bulk and see what that goes before aas

[rhino1]

Id say shorten your cycle to 14 wks max

your not dumb...just be sure you have read up...make sure your diet is in check...eat big...eat clean...work hard...

[sm15]

by the way the reason i had the the masteron weeks 10-20 is for the hardening and fat loss properties but because the test will be in his system well after the last injection

[rhino1]

wait... wk 10-20 masteron.. your running it 4 weeks alone

and yes...masteron is great for pct...

[rhino1]

if this guy has those stats Id say he needs to eat more and then eventually bulk...

test E 600mg 1-14
Deca 500mg 1-12
dbol 50mg ed 1-4

this is a better cycle for "your friend" if he isn't gaining anything off of his test and deca cycles...he is not eating right...and secondly wont make gains for that cycle you planned for him

[sm15]

he said he has too much water retention in those other cycles thats why i chose those aas for him

[LuxuryTax]

if this guy has those stats Id say he needs to eat more and then eventually bulk...

test E 600mg 1-14
Deca 500mg 1-12
dbol 50mg ed 1-4

this is a better cycle for "your friend" if he isn't gaining anything off of his test and deca cycles...he is not eating right...and secondly wont make gains for that cycle you planned for him

Good cycle bro, but since this is his first cycle i would not go with deca

[LuxuryTax]

crap i miss read it yea do what rhino said

[LuxuryTax]

take some of the water block shit, i forgot what the name of it is

[sm15]

oh he gained. i do remember that. he was jacked. then he quit training and everything all together. then college, you can imagine how that went for a partier. thats why his stats look so crappy.

[sm15]

take some of the water block shit, i forgot what the name of it is

thats the arimidex

[rhino1]

oh he gained. i do remember that. he was jacked. then he quit training and everything all together. then college, you can imagine how that went for a partier. thats why his stats look so crappy.

he doesn't seem disciplined enough for aas...

[sm15]

i agree. but he's hard headed and is dead set on it. thats why i was trying to help and get this one right

[rhino1]

well...i suggest what I said above...

[sm15]

k. ill try and talk to him. thanks guys

[LuxuryTax]

he doesn't seem disciplined enough for aas...

fersure, people always think that aas is a magic bullet ha

[Mulciber]

take some of the water block shit, i forgot what the name of it is

what the...lma.. l l bwwwaaahahahahahahah
im sorry bro.. i was just reading through the thread.. reading the advice then i seen this..kinda cought me off guard...

[LuxuryTax]

yea i no im lookin back too i should really edit it, lol

[rhino1]

yea i no im lookin back too i should really edit it, lol

yea...it really makes you sound like a reputable source of information...as well as a dumba$$ all in the same statement...

[Dinosaur]

take some of the water block shit, i forgot what the name of it is

haaaaaaaaaaaa....it really made me crack
funny and ironic.