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    I just want everyone to know that despite that I asked the question, I am fully aware of the fact that drugs do NOTHING unless your dieting correctly and doing a solid 45minutes of cardio everyday.

    I only wanted to know about the drugs in terms of their pharmacological properties

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    ^^ then tren would imo ,be the one that best suits your question... hands down

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    ^^ then tren would imo ,be the one that best suits your question... hands down
    Without a doub't, the correlation comes from the truth that was spoken many years ago,"nothing builds muscle and chases away fat like steroids " tren is the one that jacks the metabolism so high you could burn fat just by looking at a vial.

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    shittttt if your a real man.....Sust / winni / anavar / Tren A!!!!!!YEAHHH SONNNNNN!!!!!DO WORK...if your heart don't fail first.....as always a solid diet

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    The guys that are talking about the importance of diet and cardio fas the foundation for the proper drug application, are saying the stuff. Nothing you can shoot, drink, swallow, transdermally absorb etc. will do anything you want it to do without first getting the diet under control and cardio routine right. When cutting I prefer tren 75ed, var 25ed, prop 150 wk. And get good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    I said winny doesn't but youre right. None of them do. Some say mast or tren can but AAS build muscle, not burn off body fat.
    Actually you're wrong...AAS doesn't directly build muscle...It increases nitrogen synthesis which allows for more rapid repair of torn muscle fibers when proper nutrition is introduced into the body.

    The quicker the torn fibers heal, the more "gains" can occur in a shorter amount of time.

    So, without getting into the super scientific response, AAS neither burn fat nor build muscle but merely help you accomplish those goals.

    It all goes back diet and rest for either the cut/bulk.

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    From personal experience...I'll say masteron has helped me burn more BF....IMO ...it kicks winnies ass up and down!!...Of course diet and training is the key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRONBULLMASTER View Post
    Best fat burner Clen or a ECA stack, I love tren but its the devils brew for me Cannot handle sides to dam old.
    what are the most common side effects of tren (if stacked with test) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schizophonic View Post
    what are the most common side effects of tren (if stacked with test) ?
    you look so good you have to carry a stick to beat all the pvssy off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgar View Post
    you look so good you have to carry a stick to beat all the pvssy off!
    LoOoOoOoL ... and aside from tht.. what ?

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    Tren made me have violent, violent, fantasies and uncontrollable rage. I am really a mild mannered guy but tren flipped a switch on me. No other compound (test e, Sust, eq, Deca , anavar , primo) changed my personality one single bit but tren? Maaaan....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones View Post
    Tren made me have violent, violent, fantasies and uncontrollable rage. I am really a mild mannered guy but tren flipped a switch on me. No other compound (test e, Sust, eq, Deca, anavar, primo) changed my personality one single bit but tren? Maaaan....
    hmmm... tht can be managed... what hair loss ???? did u suffer from any ??

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    tren sounds like it has too much side effects for me. I dont want to turn into a psychopathic killer while im on the stuff... i guess i'll just stick to winny and hdrol for cutting

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    tren = best steriod for fat loss

    dnp = most effective thing for fat loss overall ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones View Post
    Tren made me have violent, violent, fantasies and uncontrollable rage. I am really a mild mannered guy but tren flipped a switch on me. No other compound (test e, Sust, eq, Deca, anavar, primo) changed my personality one single bit but tren? Maaaan....
    Tren rage does not arise if you do not use a lot of injectable Test with it. Had myself and 4 other guys prove that. Like first time I ran tren I ran 50mg/ED with 500mg of Prop a week and I was freaking nuts. Second run with tren went up to 100mg/ED and after hearing about it here and there tried it out and lowered Test a lot and put it to prop 50mg/EOD and tren rage was non existent. Had another friend same thing, ran tren first time, took a lot of test with it and was nuts, told him to lower test a lot with next tren run and lo and behold he was fine. And then I have had 3 other guys I know use Tren for the first time and told them to use 250mg/test a week at most and all 3 had no change in personality or any sort of rage. I wish a study could be done to find out what the hell the correlation is with taking a lot of Test with tren and that causing that rage.

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    clen +diet+cardio=win

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    i am on a 300 test / week, 50 winnie-50 anavar / eod cycle now. mid-section is melting like never before. i have cut back the calories quite a bit as i a cutting, but wow, never seen results like this so fast... look at the profile for anavar on this site - the research is there to back up the fat loss capabilities here. this is the first time i have ran var so i am attributing my current success to it's addition...
    Last edited by GTOne; 12-13-2008 at 04:48 PM. Reason: corrected dosage amounts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ljanowar View Post
    Go do more research u nab before u comment!
    Man you are just starting to piss me off.

    If you do not change your attitude you time here is short lived.

    Say one word and your fvcking gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-1000 View Post
    Man you are just starting to piss me off.

    If you do not change your attitude you time here is short lived.

    Say one word and your fvcking gone.
    Quote Originally Posted by ErnstHatAngst View Post
    i agree

    btw, does anyone know what a NAB is?

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    nab is the same as a noob or newb.

    Ljanowar: Skjerp deg gutt eller så ryker du på hue å rævva ut!!
    (get real boy or you would get banned).

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    diet, cardio & tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-1000 View Post
    Man you are just starting to piss me off.

    If you do not change your attitude you time here is short lived.

    Say one word and your fvcking gone.

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    "Androgen Receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(5), and whilethey act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, they also act directly on the AR in fat cells to affect fat burning."
    ^^^copied and pasted right out of one of the steroid profiles on this site..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dobie-BOY View Post
    "Androgen Receptors are found in fat cells as well as muscle cells(5), and whilethey act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, they also act directly on the AR in fat cells to affect fat burning."
    ^^^copied and pasted right out of one of the steroid profiles on this site..
    affect fat burning yeah, not moreso than diet and cardio though. they go hand in hand.

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    what about proviron ?

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    def genetics then diet

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    tren works really well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amorphic View Post
    diet burns fat more than any steroid. that being said, tren works the best for me
    Welll said,,,I think MOST AAS will burn some fat to some degree,,,the outstanding on though is TRENBOLONE .

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