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    Im i playing it safe?

    Hello

    First of all am gonna turn 20 after 3 months and am really conserned about my high testerone lvl at this age after using my planned steroid cuting cycle.
    Which is
    Test enth 400 mgs week/ 3 months
    Anavar 20-40 mgs/day /4 weeks only
    HGH 5ius 6 times week /3 months

    PCT:
    clomid
    proviorn
    HCG
    nolva if there is any sgin of gyno during cycle.



    So my questiones are
    1- am i going to lose my natural high testerone lvl since am 20 after the 3 months cycle that am planning to do?
    2- am i gonna have my testerone back to the raging lvl that it used to be after the PCT or is it going to be less ?(am worried about losing my booming natural testerone lvl at this age)

    btw i have taken steroid when i was 18 and 9 months if it makes any different.
    And am only worried about the testerone now cause i saw this vid on steroid.com about (Steroids and Teens) and how steroid can effect the testerone lvl for the rest of you life.
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    in my opinion you should not be cycling.

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    ... Is there a question in there?

    How to Write a Post That Gets Your Questions Answered!
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    19 is way to young in my opinion bro.

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    Yeah no point in doing it now, you already have high test levels at your age. Ride it out for a few years and make an educated decision no matter what you decide.

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    i edit my thread i hope it helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayker View Post
    Hello

    First of all am gonna turn 20 after 3 months and am really conserned about my high testerone lvl at this age after using my planned steroid cuting cycle.
    Which is
    Test enth 400 mgs week/ 3 months
    Anavar 20-40 mgs/day /4 weeks only
    HGH 5ius 6 times week /3 months

    (Thats not a good way to put together a cycle IMO. Not to mention that in order to see ANY results, HGH should be run for at least 6 months.)
    PCT:
    clomid
    proviorn
    HCG
    nolva if there is any sgin of gyno during cycle.
    (Bad PCT. I wouldnt use hCG all four weeks of my PCT. The Proviron is a bad choice for PCT as well.)


    So my questiones are
    1- am i going to lose my natural high testerone lvl since am 20 after the 3 months cycle that am planning to do?
    2- am i gonna have my testerone back to the raging lvl that it used to be after the PCT or is it going to be less ?(am worried about losing my booming natural testerone lvl at this age)

    btw i have taken steroid when i was 18 and 9 months if it makes any different.
    And am only worried about the testerone now cause i saw this vid on steroid.com about (Steroids and Teens) and how steroid can effect the testerone lvl for the rest of you life.

    Youre too young bro, its not worth the risk of shutting down your HPTA permanatly.

    Like MS suggested, wait it out. Work on your diet and training.

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    I would really appreciate if some one asnwered the two questiones above

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Youre too young bro, its not worth the risk of shutting down your HPTA permanatly.

    Like MS suggested, wait it out. Work on your diet and training.

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    thank you so much ill be keeping eye on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayker View Post
    Hello

    First of all am gonna turn 20 after 3 months and am really conserned about my high testerone lvl at this age after using my planned steroid cuting cycle.
    Which is
    Test enth 400 mgs week/ 3 months
    Anavar 20-40 mgs/day /4 weeks only
    HGH 5ius 6 times week /3 months

    PCT:
    clomid
    proviorn
    HCG
    nolva if there is any sgin of gyno during cycle.



    So my questiones are
    1- am i going to lose my natural high testerone lvl since am 20 after the 3 months cycle that am planning to do?hard to tell, alot of variables in there to consider, are you willing to risk it?
    2- am i gonna have my testerone back to the raging lvl that it used to be after the PCT or is it going to be less ?(am worried about losing my booming natural testerone lvl at this age)same answer as above

    btw i have taken steroid when i was 18 and 9 months if it makes any different.
    And am only worried about the testerone now cause i saw this vid on steroid.com about (Steroids and Teens) and how steroid can effect the testerone lvl for the rest of you life.
    bold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayker View Post
    I would really appreciate if some one asnwered the two questiones above
    Its very possible that your natural levels my not return to normal after a cycle... Good enough for you?

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    10-12 weeks is typical cycle length, not 3 months. IMO you're a little young for steroids and way too young for growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    10-12 weeks is typical cycle length, not 3 months. IMO you're a little young for steroids and way too young for growth.
    12 weeks is 3 months, lol

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    i wish i started when i was 18-20.....man, you guys have it set - roll with it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hankdiesel View Post
    10-12 weeks is typical cycle length, not 3 months. IMO you're a little young for steroids and way too young for growth.

    lol but thanks anyway



    So if you guys tell me that im too young to use steroid what is the right age to use it?and what are actully the the variables that makes it safe?


    and i have cycled before when iwas 19 which was the mistake that opened the steroids door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicotine View Post
    i wish i started when i was 18-20.....man, you guys have it set - roll with it...
    sounds like you used it when you were 13-15 am i right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    12 weeks is 3 months, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayker View Post
    sounds like you used it when you were 13-15 am i right?
    no no no no.....

    i wish i had started training when i was 18-20.... no need for gear at all! that is THE PRIME building age... you have it so lucky.

    you'll see better results at your age if you take your diet and training seriously, then if you just load up on the drugs.

    eat!

    edit: good job educating yourself before just jumping in head first. very good idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicotine View Post
    no no no no.....

    i wish i had started training when i was 18-20.... no need for gear at all! that is THE PRIME building age... you have it so lucky.

    you'll see better results at your age if you take your diet and training seriously, then if you just load up on the drugs.

    eat! good advice but i would say it more like this to emphasize it's importance, EAT

    edit: good job educating yourself before just jumping in head first. very good idea...
    post your diet for critique

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    Dont ever worry about my deit dude i eat 4-6 times a day im just big eater i can eat even when im full
    but to be honst i got some weight problem and my body type is endomorphy,though they are all clean but i still mange to get that extra weight

    3 big meals
    2-3 protien shakes/tuna.

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    Get em' Phate!!

    He's all yours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayker View Post
    Dont ever worry about my deit dude i eat 4-6 times a day im just big eater i can eat even when im full
    but to be honst i got some weight problem and my body type is endomorphy,though they are all clean but i still mange to get that extra weight

    3 big meals
    2-3 protien shakes/tuna.
    still like to see it in detail, 3 protein shakes a day is not good for several reasons, most important ones being low thermogenic value, lack of phytonutrients, and amino acid concentration valleys, same with the big meals, except now you have insulin spikes where you shouldn't have them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    still like to see it in detail, 3 protein shakes a day is not good for several reasons, most important ones being low thermogenic value, lack of phytonutrients, and amino acid concentration valleys, same with the big meals, except now you have insulin spikes where you shouldn't have them
    Phate you nutrition nut

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    Oh yeah, what do you mean by thermogenic value???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Phate you nutrition nut
    Lol, well i can't do AS yet so i figure i better study up on diet

    btw, the protein question in the diet forum, i'm about to type out a study i just read if you want to go read it, should be done in 10 minutes or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    Lol, well i can't do AS yet so i figure i better study up on diet

    btw, the protein question in the diet forum, i'm about to type out a study i just read if you want to go read it, should be done in 10 minutes or so
    Yeah sounds interesting, send it my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Oh yeah, what do you mean by thermogenic value???
    whole food takes more energy to digest than liquid, the more energy your body has to use to digest the food the more heat is produced as a by-product which raises metabolism(i'll try to find the article on that and type it out as well)

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    9.00am breakfast:tuna/egg/milk/bread.
    10-12 work out
    12.00pm after work out meal 50G protien 200calories.
    1.00pm lunch baby half chicken/milk/saled/rice/
    4-5 pm light meal of tuna with bread or protien drink 50 gram.
    7-9pm work out (i suelly eat some frots before working out)
    9 pm:after work out meal 50G protien 200calories.
    10pm:dinner baby half chicken/milk/saled/rice/

    as you can see im big eater.im wondring how can i lose weight with all these intakes lol.
    Last edited by Blayker; 12-11-2008 at 11:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayker View Post
    9.00am breakfast:tuna/egg/milk/bread.
    10-12 work out
    12.00pm after work out meal 50G protien 200calories.
    1.00pm lunch baby half chicken/milk/saled/rice/
    4-5 pm light meal of tuna with bread or protien drink 50 gram.
    7-9pm work out (i suelly eat some frots before working out)
    9 pm:after work out meal 50G protien 200calories.
    10pm:dinner baby half chicken/milk/saled/rice/

    as you can see im big eater.im wondring how can i lose weight with all these intakes lol.
    i need amounts, as in oz or g or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    12 weeks is 3 months, lol
    No it's not. It is roughly 13. Get a calendar and you'll see for yourself smart guys.
    Last edited by hankdiesel; 12-12-2008 at 11:42 AM.

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