G'day

**Axehand** · 01-10-2009, 07:18 AM

G'day, first post.

Here getting some advice on my first cycle in 6 months time, I have been training serious for 5 years now, not specifically bodybuilding but competing in cross country running, adventure racing, marathons, basically endurance events mixed in with some shorter fun runs. I do mix in other disciplines of training such as Gymnastics and crossfit but my main focus has been running.

I am in the Australian Army, hopefully there are some members who are in the ADF that can help me out, in regards to testing is it safe to say that the random tests that they conduct are for illict recreational drugs and not AAS? Does the testing for AAS require blood or urine? Does the testing look for testosterone levels or AAS compounds?

With regards to Deca Durabolin , 17 to 18 months detection time. Even though you have finished a cycle and your testosterone levels are now back to normal after PCT. If I get tested would it be safe to say that I will pass even though the compound is still in my system for 17 to 18 months?

My mate has experience with Testosterone and HGH, recommends that for my first cycle that I hit the dosages higher than recommended on this site, although he is my mate I don't feel that his advice is the best, I am doing a cycle(s) to rebuild and repair cartlidge and injuries, to get bigger (hopefully put on 15 - 20kg over a couple of cycles) but because I'm in the Army I don't want to attract any unwanted attention so I'm sticking to the 400mgs test Cypionate or Enanthate possibly stacked with Deca Durabolin or Dianabol . What would you recommend? I have thought about a 12 week cycle of HGH but the thought of cost and benefits is something to think about.

Not passing a drug screen is the biggest worry for me at the same time though I don't want to be punching holes in me twice a day for 12 weeks, as I will be injecting off base for obvious reason's.

Source is not a problem, I can get most AAS and HGH easily but I was just wondering if you can give me some advice in regards to being ripped off? What to look for, quality, has the product been cut at all, does the vials come with a seal? etc

Any other advice that you may recommend? Looking forward to getting information from this so I can have a safe and effective first cycle.

Cheers.

**Axehand** · 01-10-2009, 07:29 PM

No replies? Did I post this in the wrong section?

***RAGE*** · 01-10-2009, 07:33 PM

Give it time, I dont know enough experience to answer this question but there are a lot of people out there that can...

**hankdiesel** · 01-10-2009, 08:51 PM

Sice this is going to be a "on the down low" cycle forget the HGH and the deca . The growth you'll have to shot ed and the deca will make you fail a drug test for sure. Take 400-500mg a week of test. Hit the weights hard, eat a lot, and you'll be very pleased with the gains in mass and strenght.

**seriousmass** · 01-10-2009, 10:08 PM

Question # 1: When you're getting tested for drugs, I doubt they would test for AAS. The testing is actually really expensive, they're probably just screening for the recreational drugs (pot, etc..)

Question #2: It depends what type of steroid you do (for how long it can be detected in your system)... sometimes esters with long half lives can be detected for up to 4 months.

Question #3: I would suggest an ONLY test cycle. Maybe Test - Enan, or Cyp. But if you really want to throw an oral in there, then you could run D-bol (weeks 1 - 4) at around 40mg per day. However, your face is already going to blow up like a ballon from the water retention of test... so I don't think the D-bol will help much if you're trying to be decrete about taking AAS. (On the D-bol you will gain huge amounts of water weight within the month)

Question #4: There is an entire forum on here dedicated to not getting you ripped off: "Steroid Profile Forum".. it has pictures of gear, & tips on how to detect legit steroids .

Good luck. Don't get caught with steroids in Australia, as I'm sure you know.. you can get absolutely ****ed down there for owning AAS.

**Axehand** · 01-10-2009, 11:56 PM

Thanks for the replies, very helpful.

I'll take your advice and run a test only cycle, in regards to Test Enan or Cyp.

How often would I have to inject per week?

How much weight would I expect to gain(average) from taking 400-500mg a week of test in 12 weeks?

After my last Injection should I wait 14-18 days before I start PCT?

Thanks for the help.

**Charger527** · 01-11-2009, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Axehand

Thanks for the replies, very helpful.

I'll take your advice and run a test only cycle, in regards to Test Enan or Cyp.

How often would I have to inject per week? Twice a week, so every 3.5 days

How much weight would I expect to gain(average) from taking 400-500mg a week of test in 12 weeks? All depends on diet and how hard your train, 5-10 kgs everyone is diffenent

After my last Injection should I wait 14-18 days before I start PCT? depends on which your test your on, test e 2 weeks after last injection, test cyp is 3 weeks after last injection (i think not 100% on cyp)

Thanks for the help.

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**Muss** · 08-10-2009, 10:29 PM

im going for my first interview towards joining the Australian army in a couple of months. ive already started my cycle sus,deca ,ena,prop. im worried ill fail the tests. are you 100% they will not test you for AAS?