Winstrol PCT???

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 01:43 PM

I am going to be running Winstrol orally for six weeks @ 50mg ed. This will be my first time running a Winny cycle. Would it be necessary to take a PCT at the end of my cycle?

If so, what would suffice for a good PCT?

Thanks.

21 yrs. old
5'-6" 166 lbs.
not sure on bf (9-12% approx.)
have been lifting solid for a year.

**Mammon** · 01-22-2009, 01:52 PM

yes, pct is necessary

**C-MaN** · 01-22-2009, 01:55 PM

Use normal PCT bro

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone;438***2

I am going to be running Winstrol orally for six weeks @ 50mg ed. This will be my first time running a Winny cycle. Would it be necessary to take a PCT at the end of my cycle?

If so, what would suffice for a good PCT?

Thanks.

21 yrs. old
5'-6" 166 lbs.
not sure on bf (9-12% approx.)
have been lifting solid for a year.

Wow, thats a little early to start taking steroids ?

If you don't mind me asking why are you taking winny at 166lbs? Don't you want to bulk up first?

Yes, PCT is necessary.

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 02:04 PM

I am sorry. I didn't even see what I typed. I am actually 25 yrs. old. My bad.
I am just looking to gain some solid strength. Not trying to get too bulky. More ripped.

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by carter2186

Use normal PCT bro

like what? that is my question.

**seriousmass** · 01-22-2009, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone

like what? that is my question.

Nolva and Clomid.

run nolva (40 / 40 / 20 / 20)

run clomid (100 / 100 / 50 / 50) those are dosages each week.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone

I am sorry. I didn't even see what I typed. I am actually 25 yrs. old. My bad.
I am just looking to gain some solid strength. Not trying to get too bulky. More ripped.

LOL i wasen't commenting on your age, I was commenting on the fact you said you have only been working out solidly for a year and you want to take steroids .

I don't care if your 21 or 25 and Im not that stupid I know your 21 so don't pull the whole "Whoops I typed my wrong age for some reason trick"

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

**Mammon** · 01-22-2009, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone

I am sorry. I didn't even see what I typed. I am actually 25 yrs. old. My bad.
I am just looking to gain some solid strength. Not trying to get too bulky. More ripped.

humm, have about an inch and a half between the 1 and the 5.. really big fingers.?.. lol
i say 21..

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 02:12 PM

Is there anything else that I could buy OTC that would do the job?

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone

Is there anything else that I could buy OTC that would do the job?

NO RUN NOLVA AND CLOMID OR DON'T RUN THE CYCLE AT ALL. WINSTROL IS SUPPRESSIVE ON THE BODY'S NATURAL TEST PRODUCTION

I hope the font and color gets my point across

***T-MOS*** · 01-22-2009, 02:17 PM

I don't think you will get what you are looking for from a winstrol only cycle. But I also dont' think after one year of lifting you should be looking at any steroid in the first place, but if you do it, do it right and DO a PCT

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

LOL i wasen't commenting on your age, I was commenting on the fact you said you have only been working out solidly for a year and you want to take steroids .

I don't care if your 21 or 25 and Im not that stupid I know your 21 so don't pull the whole "Whoops I typed my wrong age for some reason trick"

PCT:
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Seriously, I don't know what I was thinking when I typed 21 in. I am 25 and my bday is Dec. 20 1983. I swear. I am really not that worried about it tho.

I have worked out on and off since I was a freshmen in high school (1999). I didn't get real serious with it until about a little over a year ago. I have seen great improvement in the last year. I just wanted some info. on PCT or should I still wait to take it after I have been working out a little longer?

**redz** · 01-22-2009, 02:17 PM

Some people get limp dick from running winstrol without test. Enjoy!

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

NO RUN NOLVA AND CLOMID OR DON'T RUN THE CYCLE AT ALL. WINSTROL IS SUPPRESSIVE ON THE BODY'S NATURAL TEST PRODUCTION

I hope the font and color gets my point across

Okay okay....haha....i hear you loud and clear!!!!

Thanks for the info.

**chuckt12345** · 01-22-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone

Is there anything else that I could buy OTC that would do the job?

just get nolva and clomid. Prb dont need it but it wont hurt.

**chippbone** · 01-22-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Some people get limp dick from running winstrol without test. Enjoy!

I def. don't want that!!!!!!

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by chippbone

Seriously, I don't know what I was thinking when I typed 21 in. I am 25 and my bday is Dec. 20 1983. I swear. I am really not that worried about it tho.

I have worked out on and off since I was a freshmen in high school (1999). I didn't get real serious with it until about a little over a year ago. I have seen great improvement in the last year. I just wanted some info. on PCT or should I still wait to take it after I have been working out a little longer?

I would wait, get your weight up naturally so you build a base of muscle. Winstrol is used to "harden" up the muscles, so thats why you need to pack on some more muscle so you get the advantages of Winstrol.

Also for first cycle users we recommend a Test only cycle @ 500mgs/week (250mgs every 3.5 days).

**chuckt12345** · 01-22-2009, 02:21 PM

I like winny alone for a cycle without test. Done it 3 times and was happy with my strength increase each time.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

just get nolva and clomid. Prb dont need it but it wont hurt.

At the very least Nolva is needed.

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