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    (Another) 1st Cycle Need Advice

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    Age:21
    Height: 6'3
    Weight: 205
    BF: ? (Anyone Guess?)
    Diet- Not going to lie, 5 meals per day, I try to avoid junk food,Protein shake
    Workout- 3-4 days a week.
    Pre Workout- NO-Shotgun

    This will be my first cycle, I want to put on another 15-20lbs and was wondering what would you guys recommend doing a cycle of? I was thinking test e 500mg/Week 2x 250mg Injections on Monday/Thursdays. I don't know if I should stack another compound into the mix? Perhaps Oral Winnie 50mg tablets 7 days a week 1 pill daily. I really want to know what other options there are out there. I am looking for solid muscle gains, and obviously to get bigger.

    Here is a pic of me currently
    Can anyone guess my BF?



    Any input is appreciated
    Thanks!
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    Bro ...1st cycle test E 2 times a week at 250mgs each inject sounds fine...see how you do with that then you can move on to 2 compounds on the next go around...

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    Dude. Is that a hard on?
    Agree. Just stick with test for your first cycle. Make sure you get proper pct, also go check out members cycle results section. Its pretty helpful.

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    Hey Bro

    Hey Bro ,
    My first cycle was the best cycle i ever had because nothing feels like the first time you cycle,It transformed me and i jumped into shows after it ,but wait I've been training for 3 years before.My first cycle briefly was a 12 weeks
    500 mg Test-E , 400 mg Deca
    Dbol for the first 4weeks(40 mg\daily)
    Armidix .25 mg a day (started 10 days before the cycle and 4 weeks after the 12 weeks)

    PCT 4 weeks pregnyl therapy (5000 IU \A Week)
    Armidix as mentioned above
    No clomid (Personal Prefer)

    My daily diet was ,
    07:30 AM 1-2 whole egg, 6 egg white [ P20 ],
    1 cup oatmeal [

    08:30 AM 1 serve whey, 1 serve nitric acid, 1serve creatine (pre wo)

    09:00 AM workout

    10:30 AM 40 grams whey, 60 gm carbs, 1 serve creatine (post wo)

    11:00 AM chicken meat, red potato, broccoli

    02:00 PM 2 scoops protein powder, 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (protein drink)

    05:00 PM fish, chicken or steak, green beans, asparagus or broccoli,
    1 serve rice, pasta or potato (if u r trying to gain size)

    08:00 PM 6-7 egg white or chicken, turkey or tuna fish,
    1 tablespoon natural peanut butter or a complex carb like oatmeal or oat bran
    (if u r trying to gain weight)

    10:30 PM 2 scoops protein powder, 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil (protein drink)

    Do such a cycle then we will talk
    my Picture from the first cycle in that thread
    take a look Hey Bros
    BODY FAT ...... NOW ! I AM Pissed Off man ( in your case it's very low i guess )
    Peace
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    Thanks for the replies.
    How many lbs could I see from just Test?
    I want to stay away from Dbol . I had a buddy who took it and it looks like he could feed 3 babies with his nipples.

    Would it be bad to stack Oral Winstrol in the mix?
    Also any guesses on my BF?

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    -just keep Armidix usage and no need to worry about Gyno
    -BF is between 8-12 % (but i can't tell because the exact measures could only done by tools)
    -Gaining weight between 15-20 Lbs

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    Would I be taking Armidix everyday throughout the cycle along with Test e or 10 days before, stop it, then a week or so after my last injection?

    I also have Novadex in hand.

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    Take the Adex throughout the cycle bro if you think your gyno pron or you just want to be safe.

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    My first cycle was Test only and I put on 20 pounds... Thats all you need!!

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    Test E at 500mg/wk is perfect for your first cycle.... i dont think arimidex everyday is necessary but if your worried about sides then better to be safe i guess, you will see great gains without a doubt i ran this cycle twice and i loved it. gotta make sure your diet is in check and you work your ass off in the gym to fully take advantage of this cycle

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    Thanks for the replies!

    I will keep this updated as I go about starting my cycle.

    What do you guys think bout running oral Winstrol towards the end of the cycle?
    50mg from weeks 8-12/Daily

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    I would stick with test only for 12 weeks bro. Plenty of time for other compounds. You need to know how your body reacts to test and what sides you are prone to. Keep some adex on hand just in case you start to develop gyno, but you should be good. Keep the diet clean and let us know how the cycle turned out.

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    you dont need the winny.... keep your diet cleana nd you'll be fine

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    Alright guys, my connect did not come through and sold out of test e. He told me to wait another 3-4 weeks until he gets more in.

    He does have Dbol and winnie in the mean while.

    Would it be ok to do take either of those solo?

    My plan was going to be test e 1-12 weeks and Dbol 1-4.

    Would the winstrol tablets by it self do anything?
    Just wondering

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    nah, id wait and get some test..

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    Wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTECLOL View Post
    Alright guys, my connect did not come through and sold out of test e. He told me to wait another 3-4 weeks until he gets more in.

    He does have Dbol and winnie in the mean while.

    Would it be ok to do take either of those solo?

    My plan was going to be test e 1-12 weeks and Dbol 1-4.

    Would the winstrol tablets by it self do anything?
    Just wondering
    As Mammon said, don't do it. Wait until you get your test. Keep on reading in the meantime to learn how to properly run a PCT and use your ancillaries.

    Honestly, it's recommended that you reach your natural genetic potential before considering AAS. From your stats and pic, you could continue to gain a lot more muscle naturally without AAS. Est Bf; 12-13%.

    How long have you been training??

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    Ya I will wait but I think I got my hands on a cycle. Will find out tomorrow. I will post a pic of the bottle to make sure its legit even though it's from a reliable source.

    I been training for 2-3 years on and off but been hitting the gym constantly for over 1 year and 8 months now.

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    Alright guys I got my gear.
    I ended up getting Test Cyp because he ran out of Test E
    Would it be alright to do a 12 week cycle of test cyp instead of the e?

    Here is a picture also, someone let me know if it looks legit...

    I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTECLOL View Post
    Alright guys I got my gear.
    I ended up getting Test Cyp because he ran out of Test E
    Would it be alright to do a 12 week cycle of test cyp instead of the e?

    Here is a picture also, someone let me know if it looks legit...

    I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks
    cant tell, post it in pic forum as well.

    how many ml's you get?

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    cyp and e are pretty much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTECLOL View Post
    Alright guys I got my gear.
    I ended up getting Test Cyp because he ran out of Test E
    Would it be alright to do a 12 week cycle of test cyp instead of the e?

    Here is a picture also, someone let me know if it looks legit...

    I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks
    that shit looks dodgy as hell, hope you can trust your source.

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