new to steriods. please help.

[acema]

male
5'7
172 pounds
bf 17%
20 years old

This is my 1st cycle. i have been taking steriods for 5 week.(winny oral + clen ).
50mg of winny on every other day. Before i start my cycle i was 163 pounds. but after the 5th week of my cycle, i gain 9 pounds.

i lift 4 days per week on mon,tue,thur and fri. i do slow jog straight after lifting for 30min-40min or cycle for 30min-40min at heart rate of 140 follow by 50g for protein powder after my workout

Been eating clean and trying to focus on high protein diet as i eat outside and it hard for me to cook my own meals.

but my problem is that i aim to get a shredded and lean look, with more cutting and lose body fats. but instead of losing weight. im actually gain 9 pounds over 5 weeks.

im wondering is that normal to gain weight on a cutting cycle. is there anitin i need to do? im still new, so i hope you guys can advice me.

THANKS A MILLION!

[redz]

Winny needs to be injected atleast once daily and if it was the oral form then atleast twice-three times daily. What is your planed pct?

[HuntMan]

Post your diet, thats where everyone else is going to want to start. if you are eating out you are eating shi***. Post a normal days diet

[acema]

my pct will be 3 weeks of clomid after my 10 week cycle for stan.

my diet.

morning.
oat meal w/o milk.
2 egg white.
2 loaf of whole meal bread.

noon
small amount of rice with lean chicken breast meat .

evening
small amount of rice with lean chciken breast meat.

[HuntMan]

Your diet is horrible. You should be eating a minimum of 5 meals a day. High protein source with every meal and complex carbs morning and PWO. Especially if you are trying to cut you will never ever get there eating like that. Do a lot of research on the diet forum here and get your diet where it needs to be.

[HuntMan]

if that what you eat thats not even 100g of protein. You should have at least 1.5g protein per pound of Bodyweight. if you are 172lb thats 258g of protein a day.

[Brown Ninja]

Diet Diet Diet
Should have done a little more research before starting

[redz]

Aweful diet and aweful cycle. Perfect example of someone who did no research.

[acema]

but even when i eat so little. im not losing weight.
could it be possible that clen has no effects on me?
should i try t3? what are the pros and cons?

[acema]

i know my diet is awful.
but can i know why is my cycle awful?
plaese advice what should i do wit my cycle n pct

[redz]

morning.
oat meal w/o milk.
2 egg white.
2 loaf of whole meal bread.

noon
small amount of rice with lean chicken breast meat .

evening
small amount of rice with lean chciken breast meat.

Do you actually eat 2 loaves of bread? how big? adding T3 will do nothing you are not listening to anyone your diet is aweful.

[acema]

ok, thanks alot. i will improve on my diet.

what about my cycle n pct?

my aim is just to get lean and haf a shredded look

[Brown Ninja]

Your not losing weight because your body is storing everything as fat. You have slowed down your metabolism to the point that every time it gets food it wants to hold on to it.

[HuntMan]

The cylce could be better. But its your diet that is killing you. You can take the strongest steroids and not see a bit of improvment if your not eating right. Seriously. Steroids are not miracle drugs. lots of research and hard work and dieting should come first 2-4 years before the use of AAS should be thought about. Fix your diet, bust your buns in the gym and keep the cardio high and you will loose weight. there are great cutting diets posted in the diet section here.

[HuntMan]

Well said Ninja

[acema]

i follow a diet with this as a guide line.

Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein

Workout

Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition

Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

Meal 6:
Shake with Flax

[acema]

ok, so what should i do now other then my diet?

[Phate]

i follow a diet with this as a guide line.

Meal 1:
Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2:
Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

Meal 3:
Veggies, Lean Protein

Workout

Meal 4:
PWO Nutrition

Meal 5:
Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

Meal 6:
Shake with Flax

too many shakes in my opinion, but it's way better than your old diet, if you post a specific diet with the specific foods and how much then i'll critique it for you

[HuntMan]

too many shakes. Every snack or meal should have a food protein source, tuna,fish, chicken,etc. You also need a PreWorkout shake. 20-40g whey protein half hour prior to the gym.

[acema]

what if i follow this diet
meal 1
4 egg whites
2 whole eggs
1 cup cooked oatmeal
1 banana
37 P, 62 C, 17 F, 548 Cal

meal 2
1 can of tuna
2 slices whole wheat bread
36 P, 26 C, 2 F, 290 Cal

meal 3 (pre-w/o)
1 cup cooked brown rice
8 oz. lean ground beef
1 cup cooked veggies
50 P, 52 C, 21 F, 610 Cal

meal 4 (pwo)
2 scoops protein
2 scoops waxy-maize
48 P, 88 C, 3 F, 580 Cal

meal 5
8 oz. chicken breast
1 cup cooked veggies
49 P, 6 C, 0 F, 286 Cal

[Phate]

too many shakes. Every snack or meal should have a food protein source, tuna,fish, chicken,etc. You also need a PreWorkout shake. 20-40g whey protein half hour prior to the gym.

why?

[Phate]

what if i follow this diet
meal 1
4 egg whites
2 whole eggs
1 cup cooked oatmeal
1 banana
37 P, 62 C, 17 F, 548 Cal
up to 6 egg whites
meal 2
1 can of tuna
2 slices whole wheat bread
36 P, 26 C, 2 F, 290 Cal
2 cans of tuna and add a banana
meal 3 (pre-w/o)
1 cup cooked brown rice
8 oz. lean ground beef
1 cup cooked veggies
50 P, 52 C, 21 F, 610 Cal

meal 4 (pwo)
2 scoops protein
2 scoops waxy-maize
48 P, 88 C, 3 F, 580 Cal

meal 5
8 oz. chicken breast
1 cup cooked veggies
49 P, 6 C, 0 F, 286 Cal

last meal add 1-1.5oz of nuts

[acema]

thanks a million bro.

what should i do to improve my cycle and pct?

[Big]

why?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Phate]

thanks a million bro.

what should i do to improve my cycle and pct?

write out your cycle and pct like this

winny 50mg ed(everyday)
test e 500mg/week shot every 3.5 days
etc

same with pct

[acema]

stano 100mg on every other day for 10 weeks
clen 40-120mg 3 week on 1 week off cycle.
3 week of clomid after the 10th week of my stano cycle

[Phate]

stano 100mg on every other day for 10 weeks
clen 40-120mg 3 week on 1 week off cycle.
3 week of clomid after the 10th week of my stano cycle

horrible cycle bro, IMO

winny needs to be shot/taken every day and shouldn't be run for 10 weeks, that's hell on your liver

[acema]

can ani advice me a gd cycle?
for slim lean body

[(1*)]

clen is good.. imo your bf% is a little high for winny. you probably won't see much from the winny with your stats. just clen or maybe a thermo from a vitamin store. that with diet and good cardio / lifting should do what you want. be sure to get a good source of protien before bed... tuna, cottage cheese, or casien protien to last till the morning.

[acema]

how is clen compare to t3?
as i felt tat clen dun haf ani effects on mi

[(1*)]

i'm sorry. can you translate your last post?

[acema]

im just wondering how is clen compare to t3 in performance of weight losing.
as i had taken clen and i find that it does not has much effects on mi.