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    What would be the safest first cycle for moderate gains?

    So I have been reading about steroids for a while now. Side effects, profiles, different stacks and I'm not sure what direction to go in. I'm not looking to gain a ton of weight right off the bat. I'm looking to go through the experience and makeup my mind from a few cycles. I have been working out steady for 4 years now and am somewhat happy with my gains. This last year they were somewhat minimal.
    About myself:
    I'm 29. 5'10'' 190 with a bodyfat of 18%.I'd consider myself a hardgainer. By the time I decide to go on a cycle I'd want to get that down to about 14% though. I workout with a 4 day split. Hit every muscle once a week. 3 exercises for smaller groups and 4-5 for bigger muscle groups. Stick to a 4-8 rep scheme and 3-4 sets per exercise. I don't know how relevant that is now because I would change it for my cycle.

    I was thinking of taking this.

    Test E 250/mg twice a week. Monday and Thursday afternoons.(10 weeks)
    Equipoise 200-300 mg(10 weeks)

    PCT

    Last week of cycle I'd start HCG 250-500 iu everyday for 2-3 weeks
    Nolvadex 20 mg/day for 6-10 weeks


    I'm not sure about my intake levels or when to take them...As far as how many times a week. I've been reading a lot of different things and I'd prefer to take a smaller amount over a longer period then taking a ton and getting it over quickly if possible.

    Overall The elements I have I think are good? but dosing is a question...any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to anyone that comments good or bad.

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    welcome.
    you don't need eq for a first cycle, and eq at that dose would be a total waste anyway.
    you need a better pct.

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    Id stick with test only for your 1st cycle, also EQ will do pretty much nothing at those dosages anyway. You should also think about adding some clomid to your PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big;443***1
    welcome.
    you don't need eq for a first cycle, and eq at that dose would be a total waste anyway.
    you need a better pct.
    Damn you type fast LOL. I obviously agree.

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    test e 500 mg a week u can kickstart with 100 mg drol for first 4 weeks
    pct clomid nolva

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifter18 View Post
    test e 500 mg a week u can kickstart with 100 mg drol for first 4 weeks
    pct clomid nolva
    LOL, hope he doesn't take that advice seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LATS60 View Post
    LOL, hope he doesn't take that advice seriously.
    It's not to far off...dont think the kicker is needed (esp. at 100mgs a day)

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    PCT for a test e cycle would NOT start until 14 days after your last injection

    you might want to get your bodyfat down a little before you start your cycle

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    So. Basically cut out the eq and add some clomid to the pct. I read that it was good to have eq in with test just because then you could cut down on how much test you have to take and would make for a risky experience. Like I said though. I've read so much that I decided to join this forum to get one on one advice.

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