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    Talking my proposed cycle would like opinions and pct advice

    alright after doing a shit load of research on these boards as well as whatever else I can find I came up with this for a cycle.

    weeks 1-6 50mg var/50 mg tbol
    weeks 7 & 8 70mg tbol
    weeks 9-14 pct of some sort....????

    now for pct I wanted to use arimidex instead of the usual clomid or nolva. can I just use the arimidex or would it be better to include one or both of the other two usual pct drugs.

    I read that this oral combo is great if you just want to put on a few pounds of solid muscle not interested in test but I was considering running eq at maybe 400mg a week. for how long not too sure yet working on figureing that out now. the reason I choose these 3 substances is because whatever I gain from using these will be solid. I'm not going to compete. I've been power lifting for over 10 years stretched my frame using protien and heavy weights I believe I have possibly reached my max potential using my own natural test. I'm still in good shape my diet could be better but I'm working on that now. I've been researching this stuff for over a year now and I decided I'm going to go ahead and do a cycle. it will be my first cycle so I plan on getting blood work and doing everything I need to do to asure a good experience. any help would be greatly appreciated I plan on possibly starting in april I want to be sure that my diet and excercise routine is where it needs to be; before I begin. thanks in advance.

    I know the pct will be different if I throw eq in the mix so please keep that in mind when making your recomendations on pct. tanx guys in advance.

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    Why would you run tbol for 2 weeks? You should just run Test E or Test C for 12 weeks for a first cycle. forget these orals.



    Edit nevermind I read the tbol is actually through the whole thing but still no point to changin the dose int he last 2 weeks, Test is best!

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    its not the worset i have seen .

    redz he means var and tbol togeter at 50mgs ed for 6 weeks then up the tbol to 70mgs for 2 weeks .

    to the op stick with one or the other bud

    weeks 1-8 70mgs var ed

    weeks 1-8 70mgs tbol ed

    i have seen people do both them cycles with good results

    adex for pct is no good.

    nolva -20/20/20/20

    clomid-50/50/25/25

    that pct would be fine with the cycles above

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    Quote Originally Posted by lord henry View Post
    its not the worset i have seen .

    redz he means var and tbol togeter at 50mgs ed for 6 weeks then up the tbol to 70mgs for 2 weeks .

    to the op stick with one or the other bud

    weeks 1-8 70mgs var ed

    weeks 1-8 70mgs tbol ed

    i have seen people do both them cycles with good results

    adex for pct is no good.

    nolva -20/20/20/20

    clomid-50/50/25/25

    that pct would be fine with the cycles above

    I knew someone would get it. this thread http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344417 has positive things to say about running them together. I was going to do a cycle of each individually after reading that thread I saw that running them together would be probably be the best thing to do.

    why is adex not good for pct? is it strictly used during a cycle? any ideas on how to include eq in this cycle?

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    var and tbol is a good mix.
    you always need more than an ai for pct, and adex is a weak ai for pct use. I still like a clomid/nolva pct.
    you don't need eq in that cycle. save the eq to run in a different cycle with test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    var and tbol is a good mix.
    you always need more than an ai for pct, and adex is a weak ai for pct use. I still like a clomid/nolva pct.
    you don't need eq in that cycle. save the eq to run in a different cycle with test.
    Thank you very much thats all I needed to know. ok Ill rock the clomid and nolva for the pct at the intervals suggested above but I'll grab some adex just in case I'm gyno prone although I doubt it but its better to safe then have bitch tits.

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