Blood preasure cranked on dbol

[MMArmour]

Stats are:
age 23
weight 216
height 6'0
bf 12

2nd cycle

2 wks into cycle.

current running

1-13 wk Test E @ 500mg/wk (split 2xWK)
1-12 wk EQ @ 500mg/wk (split 2xWK)
1-5 wk Dbol @ 50mg/ed (split e4hr)

PCT is
13-16 wk hCG @ 1500iu/wk
15-20 wk Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20
15-20 wk Clomid @ 100/100/50/50

Currently experiencing high blood preasure running dbol.

Systolic/Diastolic
148/87

Which is well above normal/high normal range. Is this an average increase while running dbol @ 50mg/ed?

During workouts, under strain, my face, neck, chest, and arms, turn dark red.

Noticing post workout on occasion some dried blood at the very top of the inside of my nostrils. Ive been adjusting my breathing technique to allow more breathing in the set to help alleviate this slightly.

I was considering running childrens aspirin or beyer once a day pre workout to lower BP during the workout for the remaining 3 weeks im running dbol. Recommended?

Or should I think about looking into lowering dbol dose?

Thanks guys. Always appreciated.

[bifda]

just lower it, im still on 30mg ed and have been for 5 weeks. i have more pressure in my head when training, but my bp is fine.

does test or EQ raise bp?

[hellapimpin]

try lowering your dose of dbol ..and yea try to the aspirin out.

[MMArmour]

No. Not to my knowledge.

Id like to continue running the dbol @ 50mg/ed but obviously my health is the priority. Not my dosage. Ill try this aspirin over the next week, and check my bp again at the end of the week. If its still jacked ill lower dosage i think.

Ill wait for more responses before I make ym mind up on my course of action.

[pharm-muscle]

EQ will raise bp...well it does to me! Asprin will not lower your bp...it only helps in cardiovascular disease to prevent platlet aggregation...I repeat no effect on BP...if anything it might make your nose bleeds worse...plus androgens slightly inhibit you vit K derived clotting factors....get some HCTZ or low dose lasix 10mg QD...make sure you eat a few bananas with each one of these as they are potassium waisting diuretics...hypokalemia can be very dangerious!! VERY...but a few bananas a day will fix that...ill pm you

[pharm-muscle]

BTW NSAIDS cause water and Na retention and are containdicated in people with heart failure due to an increase in pre-load and after-load on the heart from the subsequent increase in BP

[MMArmour]

diuretics??? Sounds like weight loss. Kinda counter-productive ya??? Probably just lower my dosage then

[FireGuy]

Your BP numbers are not that high, especially if you are only running this for 5 weeks.

[pharm-muscle]

Not muscle waisting weight loss tho...keeps the bloat down and pulls off water in you vasculature...Im running 30mg dbol right now and it isnt that bad so try and lower it then maybe the diuretics to lower you blood volume

[pharm-muscle]

Thats considered stage 1 hypertension...you dont want to be there...yeah its not too high, but hiigh enough... an MD would put you on HCTZ or an ACE inhibitor if you should up to their office 2 or more times with that BP...especially if you are eating a low sodium diet!

[MMArmour]

pharm..replied to your pm.


Fireguy, thanks. That was an answer I needed. I wasnt sure how relatively high that was in comparison to other dbol BP numbers.

Safe to continue on @ 50mg/ed while more closely monitoring bp?

When is the best time to measure blood preasure to get the most accurate reading?

[MMArmour]

Thats considered stage 1 hypertension...you dont want to be there...yeah its not too high, but hiigh enough... an MD would put you on HCTZ or an ACE inhibitor if you should up to their office 2 or more times with that BP...especially if you are eating a low sodium diet!

eating low sodium currently.

[FireGuy]

pharm..replied to your pm.


Fireguy, thanks. That was an answer I needed. I wasnt sure how relatively high that was in comparison to other dbol BP numbers.

Safe to continue on @ 50mg/ed while more closely monitoring bp?

When is the best time to measure blood preasure to get the most accurate reading?

It flucuates throughout the day, I would just try and take it the same time everyday and make sure its not trending upwards from there.

[MMArmour]

Prolly go that route. Ill monitor it everyday for the next week and make sure its not elevating. if it is ill decrease dbol dosage by 10mg/ed and see if that alleviates some of this.

Pharm...see any problems with that?

[pharm-muscle]

Take your blood pressure sitting down after resting for 5-10 minutes and make sure the cuff size is right...if you stay above 140 in the systolic and or 90 in the diastolic for 3 days in a row lower your dbol . Like you said breathing properly while working out is key also....the valsalva (bearing down) manuever can raise your BP to 300+/200+ !!!! and is the main reason body builders get AAA (abdominal aoritc aneurisms)... so just breath right and watch your daily BP...you sould be good to go bro! like other people said that BP isnt too bad so just keep an eye out

[MMArmour]

thanks for all the help guys. will keep you posted

[hellapimpin]

wait a min..

So Aspirin doesnt help BP? :O

[hankdiesel]

That is not that high. But, it's getting there. Watch your sodium and drink more than a gallon of water a day. It'll fluctuate throughout the day like what was said earlier. Keep an eye on it.

[DKU]

Where are you getting your bp measured? Mine was reading really high at an automated machine in the drugstore, but my doc told me it was not accurate because my arms were too big.

[UncleD]

your bp is slightly high but nothing scary.. as for asprin it thins the blood some so in effect lowers BP i currently take 200mg of asprin everynite for just that purpose, i to get higher bp on any cycle esp with dbol at around 50mgs ed..if you get nose bleeds, tight chest, or is hard to breath at nite when you go to sleep then be concerd, and like the guys said check your bp at diff times throught the day like apon wakeing, before and after workout and at nite, usealy BP can peak at nite time and is lowest in the morning, im no doc but i hope this helps..getting dizzy is also a bad sign.. but with BP you can be danger levels and not even know... be carefull and watchfull

[MMArmour]

ya i checked it at a machine at the drug store! had a hard time fitting my freaking arm in there. It even said "no entended for people with large arms". Could have been partially the issue. No full out nose bleeds, no trouble breathing, or tightness in the chest. Ill keep monitoring it and look into getting it manually checked. Anywhere i can do this without a doc appt?

[Ernst]

The machine at the drug store measures only up to like a 13" arm.

You can buy a blood pressure cuff of your own made for folks with larger arms.

[Andro9]

having high BP is definitly bad, but causes no real harm unless its over an extended period of time. you shouldnt have any probs.

[FireGuy]

Great point on the cuff, those machines are designed for the average adult arm size (13.5 inches). Too small a cuff will give you an elevated reading. Go the manual route and get a thigh cuff if needed.

[Ashop]

Stats are:
age 23
weight 216
height 6'0
bf 12

2nd cycle

2 wks into cycle.

current running

1-13 wk Test E @ 500mg/wk (split 2xWK)
1-12 wk EQ @ 500mg/wk (split 2xWK)
1-5 wk Dbol @ 50mg/ed (split e4hr)

PCT is
13-16 wk hCG @ 1500iu/wk
15-20 wk Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20
15-20 wk Clomid @ 100/100/50/50

Currently experiencing high blood preasure running dbol.

Systolic/Diastolic
148/87

Which is well above normal/high normal range. Is this an average increase while running dbol @ 50mg/ed?

During workouts, under strain, my face, neck, chest, and arms, turn dark red.

Noticing post workout on occasion some dried blood at the very top of the inside of my nostrils. Ive been adjusting my breathing technique to allow more breathing in the set to help alleviate this slightly.

I was considering running childrens aspirin or beyer once a day pre workout to lower BP during the workout for the remaining 3 weeks im running dbol. Recommended?

Or should I think about looking into lowering dbol dose?

Thanks guys. Always appreciated.

running an AI during cycle keeps my BP down.

[The Deuce]

ya i checked it at a machine at the drug store! had a hard time fitting my freaking arm in there. It even said "no entended for people with large arms". Could have been partially the issue. No full out nose bleeds, no trouble breathing, or tightness in the chest. Ill keep monitoring it and look into getting it manually checked. Anywhere i can do this without a doc appt?

DUDE DON'T USE THEM !!! They are never ever ever ever accurate....

the valsalva (bearing down) manuever can raise your BP to 300+/200+ !!!! and is the main reason body builders get AAA (abdominal aoritc aneurisms)... t

Can you elaborate a lil bit more on this please and thank you... you can PM if you'd like.

pharm..replied to your pm.


Fireguy, thanks. That was an answer I needed. I wasnt sure how relatively high that was in comparison to other dbol BP numbers.

Safe to continue on @ 50mg/ed while more closely monitoring bp?

When is the best time to measure blood preasure to get the most accurate reading?

Bro Continue on the 50 mgs ED.

Blood Pressure on the whole is only bad if it is for an extended period of time.. we are talking years... near decades.... elevated for 12 weeks or in this case 5 weeks will not cause (IMO) any life threatening or any future complications. I am not a medical doctor but I believe this statement to be true. If you are really worried about it... you could go to a doc and get a BP med.. that's what I did. Psst Bro... I think this has something to do with that whole (Anxiety) thing we have discussed before. You will be alright. I swear !! If you need to ask me any questions PM me. Alright?? Alright...

having high BP is definitly bad, but causes no real harm unless its over an extended period of time. you shouldnt have any probs.

EXACTLY !!! Couldn't have said it better myself...